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EXTEND DERMOTT

Created by: johnston3504
Initial Creation Date: Dec 31, 2019
Published: Dec 31, 2019 at 7:48 am
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
lock dermott up this offseason and hope that he blooms into the top 4 d-man he is going to be and it will be a nice contract in the future. also extend holl since he is playing so well this season. if it doesn't work out bury him in the minors and it densest count against the cap hit.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dermott, Travis5$2,850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Holl, Justin3$1,250,000
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
CBJ
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
EDM
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
15$81,500,000$70,671,866$0$400,000$10,828,134
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 5
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Moore, Trevor
$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$2,850,000
LD
RFA
TOR
Holl, Justin
$1,250,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 2

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Dec 31, 2019 at 7:52
#1
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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I like your thought on extending Dermot long term. But to do that you're looking at more like 4.8m not 2.8m. What's this nonsense about burying Holl. Leafs need him this year. For sure he would be picked up on waivers .
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Dec 31, 2019 at 8:00
#2
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I love these posts....why wouldnt the leafs sign dermott? Hell be an rfa
Dec 31, 2019 at 8:07
#3
Thread Starter
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 322
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I love these posts....why wouldnt the leafs sign dermott? Hell be an rfa


obviousally they will resign him im more talking about term and price.
Dec 31, 2019 at 8:10
#4
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Quoting: johnston3504
obviousally they will resign him im more talking about term and price.


Well they wont get him for that price. Have you paid any attention to contracts recently?
Dec 31, 2019 at 8:13
#5
Thread Starter
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Quoting: palhal
I like your thought on extending Dermot long term. But to do that you're looking at more like 4.8m not 2.8m. What's this nonsense about burying Holl. Leafs need him this year. For sure he would be picked up on waivers .


well i went off of what comparable dman got in earlier years, ryan ellis was at .31 ppg when he signed and it was over 200 games dermott only will have 170 if hes healthy and .28 ppg if he stays at the same pace, ellis got 3.62% of the cap when he signed which works out to about 2.95 mill but with a lower ppg and less of a span to see if that averages out higher or lower i bumped it down, if you were going to do a oscar klefbom type deal at around 4.6 mill which is 5.75% of the cap it would be more like 7 years.
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Dec 31, 2019 at 8:15
#6
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Well they wont get him for that price. Have you paid any attention to contracts recently?


ok show me a player who plaied less than 130 games who got more than that? mcavoy got a 3 year deal at 4.9 mill but he was scoring a .52 ppg
Dec 31, 2019 at 9:38
#7
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Quoting: johnston3504
well i went off of what comparable dman got in earlier years, ryan ellis was at .31 ppg when he signed and it was over 200 games dermott only will have 170 if hes healthy and .28 ppg if he stays at the same pace, ellis got 3.62% of the cap when he signed which works out to about 2.95 mill but with a lower ppg and less of a span to see if that averages out higher or lower i bumped it down, if you were going to do a oscar klefbom type deal at around 4.6 mill which is 5.75% of the cap it would be more like 7 years.


Maybe a more recent comparable would be Sam Girard of the Avs who extended earlier....new contract is 2020/21 is 5m X 7. Dermot might not be quite be in that level, but as you suggest 4.6 X7 might get it done.
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Dec 31, 2019 at 9:44
#8
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 32
Likes: 7
Hey nowwww! Man it would be awesome to lock these guys up at those prices and terms. I'd wager both guys bet on themselves and take a 1-2 year deals.
Dec 31, 2019 at 11:31
#9
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Quoting: johnston3504
ok show me a player who plaied less than 130 games who got more than that? mcavoy got a 3 year deal at 4.9 mill but he was scoring a .52 ppg


He might do that AAV for 2 years, but not longterm
Dec 31, 2019 at 1:03
#10
Joined: Jan 2019
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They gave Holl 2 Million xD. They aren't going to be able to afford to resign Dermott
Dec 31, 2019 at 1:29
#11
Lenny7
Joined: Jan 2017
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This didn't age well...Holl for 3 @ $2 mil with very little experience makes me think that Dermott for 5 @ $2.85 is a solid joke.
Jan 2 at 7:19
#12
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Quoting: Lenny7
This didn't age well...Holl for 3 @ $2 mil with very little experience makes me think that Dermott for 5 @ $2.85 is a solid joke.


well if you read the other comments we have changed the term and amount to 5m X 7 or 4.6m x 7 before this happened.....
 
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