That's terrible for the Habs.

You left out a 1st rounder.

The difference between Nylander and Domi isn't huge but I think Nylander has a higher ceiling and more skill, so if its a wash, then you are right Ceci for Petry isn't fair, however you are also getting 4 full seasons of Nylander on a great contract which adds a lot of value considering Domi could demand more money than that. I don't think I'd do this if I was TO.

Beyond awful for the Habs. Cody Ceci is one of the worst dmen in the league.

Nylander's contract isn't much of a bargain, and I doubt Domi would make anywhere close to that. I don't know why you would mention that as being a benefit to the Habs.
I see this trade as the Habs giving a division rival a top 4 D that they desperately need, and some much needed toughness and versatility with a C/W, while taking back a cap dump. This doesn't make a whole lot of sense from their end.

This just helps a division rival to much for the Habs liking

Good luck getting Domi for under 7 and Petry is at best a #4. In TO he won't get any PP time and there goes a tonne of his benefit. I am not really much of a Petry fan. Also versatility speaking, Nylander is also a RW/C and has a higher points per game, is younger and has a higher ceiling and is under contract for a fair rate for 4 more seasons beyond this. Don't let your bias cloud your judgement. Domi is not an elite player who's worth a boat load of assets. He's a very good player and a wonderful 2nd liner or support winger on the top line in some cases. Last season appears to be an outlier and he may be a 60+ point player which is good but Nylander has done that conistently and in his age 23 season appears to be turning the corner into a 70+ player who should score 30 goals as well. Nylander is better.

Should that matter to a team that should be rebuilding?

not when they aren't getting anything back that helps them rebuild. I would rather Domi then Nylander and Petry is far above Ceci, so without any other pieces this is a loss for the Habs and makes Toronto better.

Nylander is younger, very likely will be cheaper and has a higher ceiling. Domi is what he has been this year, last year was an outlier. He's going to be a perpetual 55-60 point player and is turning 25, Nylander is trending towards a point a game player and is turning 24 after the season. I agree I don't know if this is totally fair, the difference between Nylander and Domi isn't as big Petry and Ceci, however, I also don't really like Petry so I don't want him. Which is why I wouldn't do the trade. I think Nylander is best asset in the trade and since I don't overly value Petry, it makes it a no go for me.

I am a Maple Leaf, like my father before me.



I agree Petry is a turnover machine but he's got more value than being a throw in with a cap dump going the other way. They could get a 1st and a prospect from the Jets.

Domi at 7m would be crazy considering his last 4 seasons. That's Kevin Hayes UFA money. They should be able to get him locked up for 4 years at 5.75m considering he's only eclipsed 25g once.

Nylander also plays on a wide open offensive team with players who are future HOFers so he should be producing more offense, I doubt he gets to MTL and is still a 70 point player. Domi also plays better at centre which he wouldn't be doing in Toronto, there are ups and downs on both sides. Petry would also likely be a 20+ min a night guy in Toronto, you may not like him but he would complete their top 4 and make it significantly better. Overall Nylander isn't enough of a real improvement over Domi and Petry for MTL to take it, and it gives Toronto pieces they actually need to improve into a real contender.

Hayes sucks though, and got 7 million, I don't think Domi who has way more upside than Hayes is going to get less money.

I honestly don't think Petry is a top 4 guy in TO. Barrie is better than him offensively and not much worse defensively, Holl is much better defensively and also a good puck mover. That leaves the bottom pair. I think Montreal will trade Petry somewhere else, I just don't seem him as a fit for TO. Also Nylander isn't just a product of Matthews or Tavares, he's always been a terrific offensive player, no matter who he plays with. He drives possession and creates more scoring chances per 60 minutes at 5v5 than the majority of players.

Petry is easily a top 4 guy in Toronto, you may not like it but statistically speaking he is a top 30 dman in the league, I do agree though, if he gets moved MB will want a 1st and a prospect, not roster players so TO isn't a fit. And Nylander has definitely benefited from being a lesser player in TO, with Marner, Tavares and Mathews above him its allowed him to play against lesser defenders while still having elite talent, its all a system and every star benefits from having other stars take pressure off. Putting him on another team where would become the best talent in the offense would see a decrease in every stat, wouldn't completely disappear but he likely levels out to a 60-65 point player.