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The Wild trade no one expects

Created by: gregb569
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 24, 2020
Published: Jan. 24, 2020
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
Suter is a joke so chiiiiiill people
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
2nd upgrades to 1st if WPG advances to WCF
WPG
  1. Schultz, Justin ($2,750,000 retained)
2.
PIT
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
3rd becomes 2nd if EDM makes it to WCF
EDM
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
3.
PIT
  1. Suter, Ryan ($1,884,615 retained)
MIN
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Hållander, Filip
  3. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
  5. 2020 3rd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Additional Details:
2021 2nd becomes 2020 1st if PIT reaches ECF
2020 3rd becomes 2021 2nd if PIT wins SC
4.
PIT
  1. Glendening, Luke
DET
  1. 2020 4th round pick (PIT)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Justin Schultz: $2,750,000 (50%)
  • Nick Bjugstad: $2,050,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Casey DeSmith: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
WPG
EDM
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$70,177,972$132,500$3,832,500$11,322,028
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
McCann, Jared
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
$925,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
$767,500
C, LW
UFA - 1
DET
Glendening, Luke
$1,800,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
$3,750,000
G
UFA - 1
PIT
Johnson, Jack
$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
MIN
Suter, Ryan
$5,653,847
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
$675,000
G
UFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$874,125
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$850,000
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5

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Jan. 24, 2020 at 2:53 p.m.
#1
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I guess this works but i dont know if it changes up the team enough to make a big enough difference
Jan. 24, 2020 at 3:00 p.m.
#2
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gregb569
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Quoting: MajesticWalrus
I guess this works but i dont know if it changes up the team enough to make a big enough difference


was just fckin around and didn't really pay much attention to the bottom 6, but I think adding Suter at 25% retention would be incredible. Yes his contract is a little too long, but he still is one of the best defenceman in the entire league and it would completely solidify our D corps for 2-3 years at least. 5.6M for a star defenceman is definitely a steal, only thing that would suck is regression which is going to happen but, with the D core we have we could shelter his minutes/usage and he'd still be uber effective IMO.

Have him mentor Pettersson/Marino smile
Jan. 24, 2020 at 3:26 p.m.
#3
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Nobody expects it because it is a horrible move and just way too much going to Min. He is 35, on a contract that is too much, and signed until he is 40!
Jan. 24, 2020 at 4:51 p.m.
#4
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Don’t hate the overall idea but no team is going to be willing to retain salary for 4+ years. Pens would have to find a way to shed a little more room.
Jan. 24, 2020 at 5:52 p.m.
#5
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Rutherfored isn't giving Hållander and Joseph, much less also a potential 1st, for Suter even at 50%. Suter's contract goes until he is 40. Puff puff pass.
Jan. 27, 2020 at 6:11 a.m.
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gregb569
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Quoting: brgh4life
Nobody expects it because it is a horrible move and just way too much going to Min. He is 35, on a contract that is too much, and signed until he is 40!


is he not a top D in the league with really no signs of slowing down at this point? Just because he's signed till he's 40 doesn't make it or break it to me.. At that Salary (and I meant to include JJ in the deal) he'd be a steal for 1-2 maybe even 3 years. I'm not saying it's realistic at all or anything, but Suter is and has been one of the best all around minute eating D of the decade.
Jan. 27, 2020 at 6:12 a.m.
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gregb569
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Quoting: schaff34
Don’t hate the overall idea but no team is going to be willing to retain salary for 4+ years. Pens would have to find a way to shed a little more room.


Meant to add JJ, but yeah no team is retaining for 4 years or more, but nonetheless, unrealistic trade and was just fckin around lol
Jan. 27, 2020 at 6:14 a.m.
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gregb569
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Quoting: Yojimbo
Rutherfored isn't giving Hållander and Joseph, much less also a potential 1st, for Suter even at 50%. Suter's contract goes until he is 40. Puff puff pass.


I can see a no to letting go of Hallander but Joseph IMO isn't going to be much more than a fringe middle pairing guy. I just can't see a D man that's 160LB being great that shys away from the physical aspect of the game and doesn't necessarily make up for it in excelling in another area
Jan. 27, 2020 at 7:12 a.m.
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You aren't getting a 3rd from Edmonton for Galchenyuk, not unless you're willing to retain 50%. And anyhow, their 2020 3rd is spoken for already.
Jan. 27, 2020 at 8:08 a.m.
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gregb569
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Quoting: CD282
You aren't getting a 3rd from Edmonton for Galchenyuk, not unless you're willing to retain 50%. And anyhow, their 2020 3rd is spoken for already.


I meant to make it 50% because they wouldn't be able to afford him unless we took someone back with similar cap hit and I don't believe they have any expiring contracts = to or around the same as Gally,
I'd do the trade for a 2021 3rd or even anything lol
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Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:06 a.m.
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Quoting: gregb569
I can see a no to letting go of Hallander but Joseph IMO isn't going to be much more than a fringe middle pairing guy. I just can't see a D man that's 160LB being great that shys away from the physical aspect of the game and doesn't necessarily make up for it in excelling in another area


Doesn't change the point of my comment. Suter would become the oldest player on the Pens by a year and a half. Suter's contract would be the #3 cap hit on the Pens behind only Malkin and Crosby. That horrible contract continues for another 5+ seasons into Suter's 40th year.
Jan. 27, 2020 at 10:10 a.m.
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Quoting: gregb569
is he not a top D in the league with really no signs of slowing down at this point? Just because he's signed till he's 40 doesn't make it or break it to me.. At that Salary (and I meant to include JJ in the deal) he'd be a steal for 1-2 maybe even 3 years. I'm not saying it's realistic at all or anything, but Suter is and has been one of the best all around minute eating D of the decade.


He would help the team, he is a very good player, he is still crushing minutes, but he is absolutely an unnecessary piece. We need a scoring winger with Jake down. We probably needed one before that. That is just a lot of trade assets going towards a position that isn't in need.
Jan. 27, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.
#13
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Quoting: gregb569
I meant to make it 50% because they wouldn't be able to afford him unless we took someone back with similar cap hit and I don't believe they have any expiring contracts = to or around the same as Gally,
I'd do the trade for a 2021 3rd or even anything lol


Gagner would be the closest expiring deal, he's $3.15M I think.
 
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