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Blockbuster with NYR

Created by: WalterT
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 21, 2020
Published: Jan. 27, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
NYR
  1. Benning, Matthew
  2. Gagner, Sam
  3. Nurse, Darnell
  4. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
  5. Smith, Mike
  6. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Gagner, Benning and Smith are just to even out the cap hit.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,157,831$0$1,940,000$1,342,169

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 7
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$230,000$230K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
C
UFA - 1
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$2,150,000$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
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$792,500$792,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
C
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$870,000$870,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 2

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Jan. 27, 2020 at 5:38 a.m.
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rangers say no
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Jan. 27, 2020 at 7:42 a.m.
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Hmm, it's close, I'd say. So many moving parts that it's hard to evaluate, but...

1. Nurse > Skjei + Andersson, NYR advantage
2. Benning is worth a 2nd / 3rd round pick, you're mistaken if you think he should be included for cap purposes. So Benning + 3rd is somewhere in the range of Georgiev's value, as long as NYR needs RHD.
3. Buchnevich > Puljujarvi obviously, but JP still has plenty of untapped potential.

Is the advantage for EDM in #3 equal to the NYR advantage in #1? I guess that's the question.
Jan. 27, 2020 at 8:25 a.m.
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Hmm, it's close, I'd say. So many moving parts that it's hard to evaluate, but...

1. Nurse > Skjei + Andersson, NYR advantage
2. Benning is worth a 2nd / 3rd round pick, you're mistaken if you think he should be included for cap purposes. So Benning + 3rd is somewhere in the range of Georgiev's value, as long as NYR needs RHD.
3. Buchnevich > Puljujarvi obviously, but JP still has plenty of untapped potential.

Is the advantage for EDM in #3 equal to the NYR advantage in #1? I guess that's the question.



In terms of Nurse > Skjei + Andersson, while the numbers show this I don't believe it to be true. Rangers have by far the worst defensive SYSTEM in the league. Lindy Ruff needs to be fired before they make any additional changes to the D-Core. Skjei looked like a promising #1 defenseman his rookie season, but after that is when Ruff joined the team and his game went to hell (along with other defenseman on the team).

Rangers have Trouba, ADA and Fox for RHD, not to mention Keane who is an AHL allstar in his first season and Lundkvist who is turning heads internationally. Rangers are set on RHD. Regardless, there is no way that Benning gets anywhere close to Georgievs value considering he is a 7th defenseman who is a pending UFA while georgiev is a fringe starter at soon to be 24 that is under team control for another 2-3 seasons.

JP while having potential hasn't proven anything in the NHL-- why trade a proven NHLer for him. He isn't even in the same realm as Buch. You'd maybe get a 2nd rounder for him at most.

This is also before the camp dumps as well... so add on edmonton's end and not a little bit
Jan. 27, 2020 at 8:29 a.m.
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Edited Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:09 a.m.
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Hmm, it's close, I'd say. So many moving parts that it's hard to evaluate, but...

1. Nurse > Skjei + Andersson, NYR advantage
2. Benning is worth a 2nd / 3rd round pick, you're mistaken if you think he should be included for cap purposes. So Benning + 3rd is somewhere in the range of Georgiev's value, as long as NYR needs RHD.
3. Buchnevich > Puljujarvi obviously, but JP still has plenty of untapped potential.

Is the advantage for EDM in #3 equal to the NYR advantage in #1? I guess that's the question.


we don't need RHD help. we need a banging lefty defenseman who plays great defensively. as well as a third liner who can play top 6 minutes and can also play with physicality.
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Jan. 27, 2020 at 8:44 a.m.
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Buch, Georgiev, Skjei, Andersson for Puljujärvi, Nurse

How much do you think Nurse will want next year compared to Skjei 5.2m for the next 5 years cause they are pretty even other then Nurse wanting the farm. I'd say Andersson for Puljujarvi and you definitely can't say Puljujarvi is worth more then Buch so either way you look at this trade its very bad for the Rangers.
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Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:12 a.m.
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Buch, Georgiev, Skjei, Andersson for Puljujärvi, Nurse

How much do you think Nurse will want next year compared to Skjei 5.2m for the next 5 years cause they are pretty even other then Nurse wanting the farm. I'd say Andersson for Puljujarvi and you definitely can't say Puljujarvi is worth more then Buch so either way you look at this trade its very bad for the Rangers.


you didn't even get into Georgiev lol
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Jan. 27, 2020 at 9:28 a.m.
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Gagner = Negative value
Puljujarvi = No value (accept it Oil fans)
Smith = Little/no value
Benning = Little value (3rd pair/#7D)
3rd = 3rd
Nurse = Only piece of value

Clear the chaff added in as quantity distraction and the Rangers are basically getting Nurse and a 3rd .
Jan. 27, 2020 at 10:59 a.m.
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Regardless, there is no way that Benning gets anywhere close to Georgievs value considering he is a 7th defenseman who is a pending UFA


None of this is true.
Jan. 27, 2020 at 12:23 p.m.
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This is ...uh pretty terrible lol.

Skjei and Nurse are ....pretty even by most metrics. Main difference is Nurse plays 50% of his ice time with Drai/McDavid and Skjei plays 30% of his ice time with Panarin. Combine that with Nurse's impending raise and Skjei for Nurse straight up is a wholly unnecessary but about Even deal.

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Kinda makes the rest of the trade fall apart honestly.
 
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