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Created by: Daredevil514

Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 31, 2020

Published: Jan. 31, 2020

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I saw some rumors that Anderson was available, it's probably trash since his value is as low as it can get but let's give it a shot!

Let me know about value in this trade so we can work something out

My fellows habs fan will probably throw rocks at me for trading Poehling. I get it, I also want to give him time, he could probably be some kind of Anderson type player himslef but for the purpose of this trade, I think CBJ need LW and C depth ready to compete now and at center, Poehling is our only expendable asset with some kind of value!

As for Anderson, Its not fair to look at his stats this year if you disagree with the trade because he got injured and didn't get the icetime he could benefit here, if he can be the player he was those 3 last years then I think it's worth giving up those guys. He's big, fast enough, he plays hard, great shot, hit hard and isnt scared to go in traffic. The only player kind of similar in MTL is Armia, we need more of it!

Trades

MTL

Anderson, Josh
2021 3rd round pick (CBJ)

Additional Details:

Anderson sign 4x4

CBJ

MTL

Any team ready to give us a 2nd OR a 3rd.
We then try to sign him if the price is reasonable this summer since he likes it here, good for young players and he can put some points on the board.

BOS

Kovalchuk, Ilya

Buyouts

Steve Mason: $1,366,667

Buried

Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
Keith Kinkaid: $675,000 ($1,750,000)
Matthew Peca: $225,000 ($1,300,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$71,518,809	$0	$2,925,000	$9,981,191

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Danault, Phillip $3,083,333$3,083,333 C UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Tatar, Tomas $4,800,000$4,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) C UFA - 3	Anderson, Josh $1,850,000$1,850,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Domi, Max $3,150,000$3,150,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $2,600,000$2,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Thompson, Nate $1,000,000$1,000,000 C UFA - 1	Cousins, Nick $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 7	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 7
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Lindgren, Charlie $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 2
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Scandella, Marco $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD UFA - 1
Mete, Victor $748,333$748,333 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Weise, Dale $2,350,000$2,350,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Weal, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 2

Jan. 31, 2020 at 7:39 p.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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Anderson have sucked this year. You don't want to pay that much for him, in money or in value.

Jan. 31, 2020 at 7:40 p.m.

Daredevil514

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Quoting: BurgerBoss

Anderson have sucked this year. You don't want to pay that much for him, in money or in value.

This is why I took time to write in description why I think its not fair to analyse only this year

Jan. 31, 2020 at 7:50 p.m.

Wqrrior

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crap a rare occasion that someone makes a MTL thread and overpays...

This would have been the package LAST year to get Anderson... this year maybe Weal and a 2nd?

Jan. 31, 2020 at 7:58 p.m.

justaBoss

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Quoting: Daredevil514

This is why I took time to write in description why I think its not fair to analyse only this year

Last year he got carried by Panarin...this year shows it pretty clearly. He's a 3rd liner tops, shouldn't pay top dollar for that. He might have suffered some injuries, but he was bad even before them.

Jan. 31, 2020 at 8:06 p.m.

Daredevil514

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Quoting: Wqrrior

crap a rare occasion that someone makes a MTL thread and overpays...

This would have been the package LAST year to get Anderson... this year maybe Weal and a 2nd?

If you judge his career only with this year then yes it could be enough but let's be real, A 25 years old, 20goal power foward capable of everything on the ice is worth more than that! Last year CBJ would have refused this package Im pretty sure. Weal has basically 0 value and CBJ compete for a playoff run right now so a 2nd wont help them with that.
Maybe you are right about the overpayment, there is no good answer on this site anyway but your counter offer doesnt cut it IMO

Jan. 31, 2020 at 8:09 p.m.

Daredevil514

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Quoting: BurgerBoss

Panarin wasnt playing with PLD and atkinson? From what I remember when we played them he wasnt with those with panarin but I could be wrong

Jan. 31, 2020 at 8:09 p.m.

Wqrrior

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Quoting: Daredevil514

Alright. I typically do laugh at how drastically MTL overevaluates their players. I like that your offer is a bit more back on earth.

Still, someone who drops off a cliff this badly is not making equivalent value. Having a down season (give or take 20% worse of a season) might not drastically affect the value, but Anderson might not even hit 20.
You don't pay this type of package for a 20... 30... even 40 point player. I get why MTL may need an Anderson type player, in fact they would need to overpay to pry him out, but not this drastically.

If not my original offer, maybe Ikonen and a pick.

Jan. 31, 2020 at 8:19 p.m.

GMs

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Lehkonen > Anderson
End of the story
Won’t happen

Jan. 31, 2020 at 8:20 p.m.

Daredevil514

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Quoting: Wqrrior

I agree about MTL fans hehe! I see so much of bad trade value wise because we tend to mix emotions with logic when talking about our players (see Carey Price trade to colorado, they are so awful).
Back to the trade, let's say poehling is out of the question, Ikonen had 2 maaaaajor injury in two years, I dont think any team is interested! How about Ylonen a 2nd? Still doesnt help the CBJ playoff push tho, maybe Lehkonen and Ylonen or Lehkonen and a 2nd?

Jan. 31, 2020 at 8:25 p.m.

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Daredevil514

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Quoting: GMs

Lehkonen > Anderson
End of the story
Won’t happen

Size : Anderson
Shot: Anderson
Skills: Anderson
Defense: Lehkonen
Grit: Equal
Toughness and power : Anderson

Best season of lehkonen, 18 goals, Anderson did it 3 times, sorry but you are wrong here

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Jan. 31, 2020 at 8:30 p.m.

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Quoting: Daredevil514

Size : Anderson
Shot: Anderson
Skills: Anderson
Defense: Lehkonen
Grit: Equal
Toughness and power : Anderson

Best season of lehkonen, 18 goals, Anderson did it 3 times, sorry but you are wrong here

I’m right, Bergevin loves Lehkonen and wouldn’t trade him for 2 2nd round picks and Anderson value right now is a 2nd + late pick

Jan. 31, 2020 at 8:33 p.m.

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Wqrrior

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Quoting: Daredevil514

Size : Anderson
Shot: Anderson
Skills: Anderson
Defense: Lehkonen
Grit: Equal
Toughness and power : Anderson

Best season of lehkonen, 18 goals, Anderson did it 3 times, sorry but you are wrong here

Where I agree they won't use Lehkonen in this trade (it doesn't make sense), he is perhaps the most overrated Hab. Lehkonen and Anderson are closer in value than Habs fans want to acknowledge.

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