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Hawks

Created by: Isles777
Initial Creation Date: Feb 10, 2020
Published: Feb 10 at 1:37
Team: 2019-20 New York Islanders
Trades
NYI
  1. DeBrincat, Alex
CHI
  1. Bellows, Kieffer
  2. Wilde, Bode
  3. 2020 1st round pick (NYI)
Buyouts
  • Rick DiPietro: $0
Buried
  • Thomas Hickey: $1,425,000 ($2,500,000)
  • Andrew Ladd: $4,425,000 ($5,500,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
2021
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
2022
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$76,397,499$0$1,152,500$5,102,501
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CHI
DeBrincat, Alex
$778,333
LW, RW
RFA - 1
NYI
Barzal, Mathew
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
NYI
Eberle, Jordan
$5,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 5
NYI
Lee, Anders
$7,000,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 7
NYI
Nelson, Brock
$6,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
NYI
Bailey, Josh
$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
NYI
Beauvillier, Anthony
$2,100,000
LW
RFA - 2
NYI
Brassard, Derick
$1,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
NYI
Dal Colle, Michael
$700,000
LW
RFA - 2
NYI
Martin, Matt
$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
NYI
Cizikas, Casey
$3,350,000
C
UFA - 2
NYI
Komarov, Leo
$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
NTC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYI
Toews, Devon
$700,000
LD
RFA - 1
NYI
Pulock, Ryan
$2,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
NYI
Varlamov, Semyon
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
NYI
Leddy, Nick
$5,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
NYI
Boychuk, Johnny
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
NYI
Greiss, Thomas
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
NYI
Dobson, Noah
$894,167
RD
RFA - 3
NYI
Mayfield, Scott
$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYI
Kühnhackl, Tom
$850,000
RW
UFA - 1
NYI
Clutterbuck, Cal
$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 3
NYI
Johnston, Ross
$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
NYI
Vande Sompel, Mitch
$728,333
D
RFA - 1
NYI
Pelech, Adam
$1,600,000
LD
RFA - 2

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Feb 10 at 1:38
#1
Ethan
Joined: Mar 2017
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its a fair trade chicago just wont trade debrincat though hes a monster
Feb 10 at 2:12
#2
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,729
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Chicago isn't going anywhere anymore so who cares if they start blowing things up. Wouldn't surprise me if Toews and Kane waive their NMC and move on in the very near future!! It may be another 49 year drought but it was nice for that beautiful 6 year run!!!
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Feb 10 at 2:21
#3
Thread Starter
Isles777
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Quoting: graderman
Chicago isn't going anywhere anymore so who cares if they start blowing things up. Wouldn't surprise me if Toews and Kane waive their NMC and move on in the very near future!! It may be another 49 year drought but it was nice for that beautiful 6 year run!!!


I would take a drought for 1 Stanley cup lol
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Feb 10 at 3:32
#4
Joined: Jun 2015
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Quoting: Isles777
I would take a drought for 1 Stanley cup lol
I hear ya, pal! It seems like a mirage since '15 in how far they have fallen and so quickly. Two 1st rd KOs despite having the best record in the WC the second of those seasons, now early April golfers ever since.
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Feb 10 at 3:41
#5
Executive Decisions
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 48
Likes: 10
Quoting: ethanives
its a fair trade chicago just wont trade debrincat though hes a monster


Given how much he's struggled recently I'd say Bowman is listening to any offers for Cat. He's a great player just something isn't working whether it's Colliton's constant line juggling or the new contract is messing with him. Seems he needs a fresh start somewhere else and will probably do better there. This is Nick Schmaltz 2.0 Barzal and Debrincat would be interesting...
Feb 10 at 3:46
#6
Joined: Jun 2015
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Quoting: Canucks_Hawkey
Given how much he's struggled recently I'd say Bowman is listening to any offers for Cat. He's a great player just something isn't working whether it's Colliton's constant line juggling or the new contract is messing with him. Seems he needs a fresh start somewhere else and will probably do better there. This is Nick Schmaltz 2.0 Barzal and Debrincat would be interesting...


Remember StanBo extended one Artemi Panarin only to move him before the next season.
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Feb 10 at 4:02
#7
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,351
Likes: 470
Quoting: Canucks_Hawkey
Given how much he's struggled recently I'd say Bowman is listening to any offers for Cat. He's a great player just something isn't working whether it's Colliton's constant line juggling or the new contract is messing with him. Seems he needs a fresh start somewhere else and will probably do better there. This is Nick Schmaltz 2.0 Barzal and Debrincat would be interesting...


Quoting: graderman
Remember StanBo extended one Artemi Panarin only to move him before the next season.


Stan bowman is so bad he made Jason boterill look like a genius in the joki-nylander trade. Just brutal.

As for cat, right now I boil it down to the coach. Colliton genuinely believes a team with a crap defense can play defensive hockey. Cat only benefits from the run and gun.
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Feb 10 at 4:07
#8
Thread Starter
Isles777
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Quoting: HatterTParty
Stan bowman is so bad he made Jason boterill look like a genius in the joki-nylander trade. Just brutal.

As for cat, right now I boil it down to the coach. Colliton genuinely believes a team with a crap defense can play defensive hockey. Cat only benefits from the run and gun.


You don’t think debrincat could play in a defensive minded system like the islanders?
Feb 10 at 4:07
#9
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Quoting: HatterTParty
Stan bowman is so bad he made Jason boterill look like a genius in the joki-nylander trade. Just brutal.

As for cat, right now I boil it down to the coach. Colliton genuinely believes a team with a crap defense can play defensive hockey. Cat only benefits from the run and gun.
This happy. That style of play is best way for sure. Sure sucks to blow 2-0 leads, regardless of situation. This team is about this close of needing a total rebuild...nope, they are there already!
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Feb 10 at 4:10
#10
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,351
Likes: 470
Quoting: Isles777
You don’t think debrincat could play in a defensive minded system like the islanders?


With trots as his coach and barzal as his center, yes he can! Absolutely! In Chicago though, i know strome and him are besties, but strome doesn’t influence a game like barzal does. Also, trotz can get the very best out of the cat. My only worry is cat’s work rate, as he does get lazy occasionally.
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Feb 10 at 4:12
#11
Joined: Jun 2019
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Quoting: graderman
This happy. That style of play is best way for sure. Sure sucks to blow 2-0 leads, regardless of situation. This team is about this close of needing a total rebuild...nope, they are there already!


You have no idea how much it sucks being one of the only hawks fans who thinks long term instead of “hey Kane and toews still rock, so you can’t rebuild.” My hawks are absolutely delusional if they think the current way playing hockey means they can compete. I’m begging them at this to rebuild for 3-5 years so we can thrive for the next 15 after.
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Feb 10 at 4:43
#12
Joined: Jun 2015
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Quoting: HatterTParty
You have no idea how much it sucks being one of the only hawks fans who thinks long term instead of “hey Kane and toews still rock, so you can’t rebuild.” My hawks are absolutely delusional if they think the current way playing hockey means they can compete. I’m begging them at this to rebuild for 3-5 years so we can thrive for the next 15 after.
Actually, I do understand, my friend. I was one of the few who questioned "The Signings" before the ink even dried. I was ridiculed on another site but knew the team would suffer as a result. A lot has snowballed negatively since. BTW, I was against the AAV, not keeping 88&19.
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Feb 10 at 5:30
#13
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,351
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Quoting: graderman
Actually, I do understand, my friend. I was one of the few who questioned "The Signings" before the ink even dried. I was ridiculed on another site but knew the team would suffer as a result. A lot has snowballed negatively since. BTW, I was against the AAV, not keeping 88&19.


Ya know, I get the whole “loyalty signing” label attached to seabrook and that he “earned” his 6.875 per, but that doesn’t mean the term had to be so severe. That’s what crushed me at the time. In all actuality, I thought Kane and toews also did the team a great disservice with their extensions. More toews than Kane obviously given how he’s playing.

Having said that, if you can get great assets at this point by selling wholesale, what does this team have to lose anymore? Bowman’s legacy in the eyes of hawks fans is irreversibly dented in spite of the cups. Either sell or get walking Stan. The funny thing is that in spite of the red wings being historically awful this year, I trust Stevie Y to turn that team around cuz he has a plan. Can’t say I trust Stan with that responsibility.
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Feb 10 at 5:33
#14
Thread Starter
Isles777
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Quoting: HatterTParty
Ya know, I get the whole “loyalty signing” label attached to seabrook and that he “earned” his 6.875 per, but that doesn’t mean the term had to be so severe. That’s what crushed me at the time. In all actuality, I thought Kane and toews also did the team a great disservice with their extensions. More toews than Kane obviously given how he’s playing.

Having said that, if you can get great assets at this point by selling wholesale, what does this team have to lose anymore? Bowman’s legacy in the eyes of hawks fans is irreversibly dented in spite of the cups. Either sell or get walking Stan. The funny thing is that in spite of the red wings being historically awful this year, I trust Stevie Y to turn that team around cuz he has a plan. Can’t say I trust Stan with that responsibility.


I agree with you. I think it’s important for a GM to have a direction and commit to it.
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Feb 10 at 5:46
#15
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,729
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Quoting: HatterTParty
Ya know, I get the whole “loyalty signing” label attached to seabrook and that he “earned” his 6.875 per, but that doesn’t mean the term had to be so severe. That’s what crushed me at the time. In all actuality, I thought Kane and toews also did the team a great disservice with their extensions. More toews than Kane obviously given how he’s playing.

Having said that, if you can get great assets at this point by selling wholesale, what does this team have to lose anymore? Bowman’s legacy in the eyes of hawks fans is irreversibly dented in spite of the cups. Either sell or get walking Stan. The funny thing is that in spite of the red wings being historically awful this year, I trust Stevie Y to turn that team around cuz he has a plan. Can’t say I trust Stan with that responsibility.
Yup. I don't foresee Chicago even making the playoffs in these next 4 years.
Feb 10 at 7:42
#16
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,351
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Quoting: graderman
Yup. I don't foresee Chicago even making the playoffs in these next 4 years.


Hawks fans, I’m not being negative, I’m just being a realist. I AM WITH GRADERMAN. We are a ship with a deaf captain Steering the ship and a first mate blind to the style that it takes to win with this team.
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