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Bring him home

Created by: Ryminister_27
Published: Feb. 12, 2020 at 2:38 p.m.
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 52/186 (28%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $20,975,000
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $15,140,483
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dermott, TravisToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$863,333111---43448--
Kerfoot, AlexanderToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$3,500,000111---5281624--
2020 6th round pick (Logo of the Carolina HurricanesCAR)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Tanev, ChristopherVancouver CanucksNHL-$4,450,000111---5721719--
Gaudette, AdamVancouver CanucksNHL-$916,667111---47101626--
2020 4th round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$5,834,5172349703516
Change-$1,003,334000000
Final$4,831,183 (↓)234970351601313

Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVancouver Canucks

Trade occurred while using LTIR
LTIR Relief: $3,500,000
LTIR Used Prior to Trade: $2,945,000
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Tanev, ChristopherVancouver CanucksNHL-$4,450,000111---5721719--
Gaudette, AdamVancouver CanucksNHL-$916,667111---47101626--
2020 4th round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dermott, TravisToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$863,333111---43448--
Kerfoot, AlexanderToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$3,500,000111---5281624--
2020 6th round pick (Logo of the Carolina HurricanesCAR)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$555,0002247663612
Change$1,003,334000000
Final$1,558,334 (↑)22476636120-130
Feb. 12, 2020 at 3:55 p.m.
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So......TOR gets the two better players in the deal plus the better draft pick. DENIED.
Feb. 12, 2020 at 5:02 p.m.
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So......TOR gets the two better players in the deal plus the better draft pick. DENIED.


LOL

In terms of value:
Kerfoot >> Tanev
Dermott = Gaudette

Both teams get what they need. Toronto a top 4 d-man and Vancouver a top 6 winger. Leafs also need centre depth and get that, Canucks also need higher end defensive depth. Keep in mind that Vancouver is getting 2 guys with more team control and Toronto is getting a pending UFA who could walk in a few months. Canucks already have 2 better RHD than Tanev so he won't be re-signed anyways.

In terms of value and team needs, it's a walk in the park for Vancouver.
Feb. 12, 2020 at 8:03 p.m.
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Vancouver says no thank you. Dermott is as good as he will ever be. At best a #5 Dman. Van will have a couple guys on the farm next year that will surpass Dermotts skill. Kerfoot was a mistake that Dooby made....at 3.5M, he has zero value. Pass.
Additionally, latest odds have Vancouver at 90% to make the playoffs.....Tor at only 60%. Vancouver is not giving up Tanev unless it is a HUGE over pay. Dermott for Stetcher would be an even one for one trade.
Feb. 12, 2020 at 8:04 p.m.
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Quoting: T_Hip
Vancouver says no thank you. Dermott is as good as he will ever be. At best a #5 Dman. Van will have a couple guys on the farm next year that will surpass Dermotts skill. Kerfoot was a mistake that Dooby made....at 3.5M, he has zero value. Pass.
Additionally, latest odds have Vancouver at 90% to make the playoffs.....Tor at only 60%. Vancouver is not giving up Tanev unless it is a HUGE over pay. Dermott for Stetcher would be an even one for one trade.


You lost me in laughter after the first part. 😂
Feb. 12, 2020 at 8:05 p.m.
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You said......In terms of value:
Kerfoot >>; Tanev
Dermott = Gaudette


Hardly. Real Value
Tanev >> Dermott
Gaudette >> Kerfoot

Sooooooo Paaaasssss
Feb. 12, 2020 at 8:16 p.m.
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You lost me in laughter after the first part. 😂


Both Vancouver players have more points than both Toronto players. And Kerfoot has the advantage of playing with Tavares and he still sucks. Gaudette outscore him and he centre his own line.

Soooo pass.
Feb. 12, 2020 at 8:36 p.m.
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Both Vancouver players have more points than both Toronto players. And Kerfoot has the advantage of playing with Tavares and he still sucks. Gaudette outscore him and he centre his own line.

Soooo pass.


Hockey is about so much more than just points. But have fun keep thinking that 👍🏻
Feb. 12, 2020 at 8:43 p.m.
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If Kyle starts a phone call to any GM in the League with the words KERFOOT....the other GMs hang up. 3.5M for what he brings....yikes. Colorado was over the moon to package him with Barrie. Almost as bad as 6M for Loui. At least Loui is a decent defender and penalty killer.
Feb. 12, 2020 at 8:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Hockey is about so much more than just points. But have fun keep thinking that 👍🏻


Enjoy missing the playoffs
Feb. 12, 2020 at 8:59 p.m.
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Enjoy missing the playoffs


You would know. Haven't made the playoffs in half a decade.

& I guess you better check the standings before you make such ignorant comments like that. Toronto is currently IN A PLAYOFF SPOT. & Vancouver is only 3pts away from being outta the playoffs.. wouldn't get too cocky yet.

Stay classy kid.
Feb. 12, 2020 at 10:17 p.m.
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Only 60% chance TO stays in a playoff spot....Vcr 90%

You really want to go there.....you have not seen the second round in 15 yrs!! GL finding 5 quality D men next year for only 10M of cap space.

It would be nice for you to see the Leafs in the Stanley Cup final IN COLOUR!!!
Feb. 12, 2020 at 10:20 p.m.
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Quoting: T_Hip
So......TOR gets the two better players in the deal plus the better draft pick. DENIED.


Are you serious? Travis Dermott alone would be an overpayment! So I agree the phone gets slammed on this offer from Leaf's perspective. I'm not against a trade involving Dermott but he's a young defender growing into a top 4 defender, no team trades that away for spare parts and a bad contract.
Feb. 12, 2020 at 10:21 p.m.
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Only 60% chance TO stays in a playoff spot....Vcr 90%

You really want to go there.....you have not seen the second round in 15 yrs!! GL finding 5 quality D men next year for only 10M of cap space.

It would be nice for you to see the Leafs in the Stanley Cup final IN COLOUR!!!


Funny a buddy of mine said this exact thing to me today! IN COLOUR!
Feb. 12, 2020 at 10:23 p.m.
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Enjoy missing the playoffs


I like the Nucks but slow down their whippersnapper... If the Nucks were in the east they wouldn't even sniff at a wild card spot.
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Feb. 12, 2020 at 10:56 p.m.
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Are you serious? Travis Dermott alone would be an overpayment! So I agree the phone gets slammed on this offer from Leaf's perspective. I'm not against a trade involving Dermott but he's a young defender growing into a top 4 defender, no team trades that away for spare parts and a bad contract.


Dermott will never be more than a #5 D amn. He will probably back with the Marlies next year. You REALLY over estimate what Dermott is. He is not physical and has no offensive upside. The only thing he has going for him is currently low cap hit.
Feb. 13, 2020 at 4:17 a.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
LOL

In terms of value:
Kerfoot >> Tanev
Dermott = Gaudette

Both teams get what they need. Toronto a top 4 d-man and Vancouver a top 6 winger. Leafs also need centre depth and get that, Canucks also need higher end defensive depth. Keep in mind that Vancouver is getting 2 guys with more team control and Toronto is getting a pending UFA who could walk in a few months. Canucks already have 2 better RHD than Tanev so he won't be re-signed anyways.

In terms of value and team needs, it's a walk in the park for Vancouver.


they don't need center depth, and IF they did, trading away a center would make no sense lol Kerfoot > Gaudet on the ice, and Kerfoot is locked up where as Gaudet is up this year lol
Feb. 13, 2020 at 4:23 a.m.
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Dermott will never be more than a #5 D amn. He will probably back with the Marlies next year. You REALLY over estimate what Dermott is. He is not physical and has no offensive upside. The only thing he has going for him is currently low cap hit.


well to start, Dermott just turned 23 so he still has development time

his offense hasn't developed fully yet, but considering his age, and the fact he hasn't played a full season yet its still hard to judge

as for not physical, hes averaging over a hit and a half a game, which is decent for young smallish D man who is on a lower pair
Feb. 13, 2020 at 7:19 a.m.
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they don't need center depth, and IF they did, trading away a center would make no sense lol Kerfoot > Gaudet on the ice, and Kerfoot is locked up where as Gaudet is up this year lol


Don't need centre depth? If Matthews or Tavares get hurt their 2C is Spezza. Nylander or Kerfoot are not good enough centres and the Marlies don't have any high end talent. So how don't they need centre depth?
Feb. 13, 2020 at 7:22 a.m.
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Only 60% chance TO stays in a playoff spot....Vcr 90%

You really want to go there.....you have not seen the second round in 15 yrs!! GL finding 5 quality D men next year for only 10M of cap space.

It would be nice for you to see the Leafs in the Stanley Cup final IN COLOUR!!!


Eh bud, remind me again how many Stanley Cups your favourite team has won? ... still waiting.. that's what I thought.
So please. Learn something about hockey before you try and chirp.

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Dermott will never be more than a #5 D amn. He will probably back with the Marlies next year. You REALLY over estimate what Dermott is. He is not physical and has no offensive upside. The only thing he has going for him is currently low cap hit.



Lol. I can't even with you anymore kid. Have a nice life.
Feb. 13, 2020 at 10:35 a.m.
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Eh bud, remind me again how many Stanley Cups your favourite team has won? ... still waiting.. that's what I thought.
So please. Learn something about hockey before you try and chirp.


Really...Cups with only 6 teams in the league need to be proceeded with an *
Msg me if Dermott EVER becomes #4 D man or better. I will wait cause it is NOT happening.

Lol. I can't even with you anymore kid. Have a nice life.


Kid?!? LOL
Feb. 13, 2020 at 10:41 a.m.
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Kid?!? LOL


Cups with 6 teams is still more cups than a team with 0 total 🤷🏻‍♂️😂
Feb. 13, 2020 at 10:44 a.m.
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Dermott will never be more than a #5 D amn. He will probably back with the Marlies next year. You REALLY over estimate what Dermott is. He is not physical and has no offensive upside. The only thing he has going for him is currently low cap hit.


You clearly have your own opinion and good on you. I won't waste time arguing that but, it is wise to remember that not everyone shares your opinion and no matter what you believe or how hard you belive it, it's not going to change theirs. So that being said, if that's the way you see it, you are not alone but you are not a majority either. Fact is, those in the know value Dermott way more then you do! Get over it!
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Feb. 13, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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Don't need centre depth? If Matthews or Tavares get hurt their 2C is Spezza. Nylander or Kerfoot are not good enough centres and the Marlies don't have any high end talent. So how don't they need centre depth?


Kerfoot is a fine 2/3C, and based on his play this year Nylander could fill in as a 2C, but even IF they needed the depth, losing AK for Gaudette would make it worse lol

you are an example of a anti leaf bias, go actually look at the objective numbers
Feb. 13, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
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Kerfoot is a fine 2/3C, and based on his play this year Nylander could fill in as a 2C, but even IF they needed the depth, losing AK for Gaudette would make it worse lol

you are an example of a anti leaf bias, go actually look at the objective numbers


Not to mention Brooks will do just fine in the 3 hole next year, and might even be a Black Ace in the postseason this year.
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Quoting: GoldGravity
Kerfoot is a fine 2/3C, and based on his play this year Nylander could fill in as a 2C, but even IF they needed the depth, losing AK for Gaudette would make it worse lol

you are an example of a anti leaf bias, go actually look at the objective numbers


Lol. I'm actually a Leafs fan there bud. And if you watch, Kerfoot hasn't been a good 3C this year. That's why he got moved to the wing. And they tried Nylander at centre last season and the one before.. he's never worked out there because he's not good in his own end. He's much better suited on the wing where he can use his speed better.

It's called the eye test. Something your "objective numbers" can't measure. You should try it sometime.
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