The reason you have they best players so low in the lineup is because of their time on ice. I guess you are rating their stats just off corsi most of their forwards are fantastic and their defense is absolutely horrible. The reason they are on for so many shots against is because they arent able to exit the defensive zone leading to more time in the defensive zone meaning more shots against. Sure the forwards are to blame a little bit but it's mostly because they have below average defenseman and those defenseman are playing way over their heads. If they had better defenseman to play with their individual and team corsi would go up.

Now if we go back to what I was saying about TOI we see that their top forwards are playing against other teams top forwards and they are still on the ice with their ****ty defenseman. They will have a worse corsi because they are playing the tougher minutes whereas the bottom 6 guys are playing less minutes and those minutes are against opposing bottom 6s most of the time. If the bottom 6 guys were to play more minutes they would be on for more shots against results in a lower corsi%

Thank you. This is the logic I've been waiting for.

It's very difficult to construct a team entirely off offensive AND defensive responsible players. The jets aren't going to bench, trade, give up on or scratch Laine only because his defensive game sucks if he can score as well.
Classic example is Dzingel. A guy who can be great in the offensive zone, but otherwise is useless. This year he couldn't score, therefore he has been scratched a number of times.
This is the context that advanced stats need. They give an indicator of who is good where, and allow that player to be put in positions where they have the best impact.

Okay now, if Perreault is one of the Jets best forwards in advanced stats, why is he traded or bought out so frequently on Jets AGMs on this website - by Jets fans too. Obviously he is overpaid, but if he is that important, shouldn't that overrule the cap?

Some guys exist on the roster for the lone purpose of providing points. Everyone has their own role on the team. Copp does his best work on the third line - that's his role, and that's where he is best. Just because advanced stats label him as one of the best Jets does not mean he should magically be running the top line.

Ok, that doesn't make him a worse player tho, just not suited for that role (ie if you want offense and nothing else, put Scheif out there, if you want to control play in all three zones, not give up a ton of chances against, put Copp out there, who is the better overall player... Just bc a guy is better offensively doesn't make him the better player, plus if you give Copp better scoring linemates, and more TOI/PP time he might actually get more points)... That was a bad explanation... The better player isn't always the "1C" (best offensive center) was the point I was trying to make, also you still haven't given me a single piece of context that makes analytics less valuable for player evaluation

You didn't read what I defined as context for this thread.

This roster and it's lines throw players together by their advanced stats only.

Applying context, such as the "eye test"that @Ajp_18 spoke of, or merging it with the more typical stats allows us to slot them into their appropriate role on the roster.
Advanced stats aren't a determining factor to who is the better player, it' tells you who is best where. I guarantee you if Copp was placed in a top line role, his advanced stats would plummet. Copp is better on 3C than Schiefele, and vice versa for 1C.

They won't. If anything, playing with guys who can outscore their xG by that much, they, along with his "normal stats" will skyrocket

Well, then congratulations you have yourself the coyotes. Nobody will score on you, and you yourselves won't score. Copp is not offensively talented enough to offensively exceed other players top lines.

1 player != An entire team that can't score... Points wise or analytics wise, the only good offensive players are Hall and Chychrun... (Plus the point of my comments were saying Copp is the best overall center on the Jets... Not the most offensive...)

The correct term is most balanced. Not best overall. I see what you are saying though and will leave it there. Hopefully you see my reasoning in applying advanced stats reasonably, and not using them as the only determining factor in anything.