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Team: 2020-21 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: May 14, 2020
Published: May 14, 2020
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21$81,500,000$68,885,515$306,349$425,000$12,614,485
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
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C
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
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UFA - 8
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$8,510,000$8,510,000
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UFA - 5
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
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UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C, RW
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW
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$900,000$900,000
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UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
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$1,475,000$1,475,000
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UFA - 1
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$3,275,000$3,275,000
LD
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UFA - 4
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RD
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UFA - 7
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LD
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UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
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UFA - 3
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
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UFA - 1
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
RD
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May 14, 2020 at 11:40 a.m.
#26
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Quoting: SammyT_51
How about Marner with 2M retention for Parayko and Thomas?


Thomas outscored Marner this year at 5v5, plays center, is younger, better defensively, and isn't/won't be paid like an MVP candidate. You laugh at Blues fans that won't trade Parayko for Marner - may as well add the ones that won't trade Thomas for Marner.
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May 14, 2020 at 12:25 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Many of you asked for Rielly+ for Parayko on here.. Im not saying you specifically because you had some really good ideas. And I know that trade aint happening. Blues dont trade Parayko ever. Just like Leafs and Marner. It isnt exactly newsflash. It was as ridiculous of an idea as Rielly+ for Parayko. And you arent exactly giving us 5M in cap space in that hypothetical nonrealistic scenario either.. Marner at 8.93M for Parayko (5.5) and Thomas (900k) and leafs retain as well 2 millions so its basically 500k you are giving us..



1- I have never once seen any Blues fan here try to trade Parayko, let alone for Reilly, let alone explicitly say that they would trade Parayko for Reilly plus. Not one. I have seen some state that Parayko is a more valuable player than Reilly, and I have seen some say that Parayko is worth more to the Blues than Reilly would be. Neither of these is "asking for Reilly+ in exchange for Parayko". I suppose it's possible that I missed something, but I sincerely doubt that you saw precisely what you claim you saw. Sorry.

2- Marner's cap hit is about 10.9m minus the 2m = 8.9 + Holl's 2m = 10.9m. Parayko's 5.5m = Thomas' .9m = 6.4m. So, okay, fine, it would 4.5m, not 5m. I didn't actually add it up before, I was estimating. Slight difference in sum, same point stands.
May 14, 2020 at 12:30 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
1- I have never once seen any Blues fan here try to trade Parayko, let alone for Reilly, let alone explicitly say that they would trade Parayko for Reilly plus. Not one. I have seen some state that Parayko is a more valuable player than Reilly, and I have seen some say that Parayko is worth more to the Blues than Reilly would be. Neither of these is "asking for Reilly+ in exchange for Parayko". I suppose it's possible that I missed something, but I sincerely doubt that you saw precisely what you claim you saw. Sorry.

2- Marner's cap hit is about 10.9m minus the 2m = 8.9 + Holl's 2m = 10.9m. Parayko's 5.5m = Thomas' .9m = 6.4m. So, okay, fine, it would 4.5m, not 5m. I didn't actually add it up before, I was estimating. Slight difference in sum, same point stands.


1 - they were quite a few of those on here..

2 - I never mentioned Holl in any of the trades. And also Leafs are keeping those two million so you can add that sum up. Thats 500k.
May 14, 2020 at 12:37 p.m.
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Am I? Okay, give me actual examples from my armchair GM teams. I wanna know what is so bad about my evaluations. Im here to learn, lets hear it from you, enlighten me on values of Leafs players!


Look at ur comments marner for parayko and Thomas.. I saw bear+ for kap like sober up lmao
May 14, 2020 at 12:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
Look at ur comments marner for parayko and Thomas.. I saw bear+ for kap like sober up lmao


Have I done an actual armchair GM team where I did that? No. And if its not there, its just throwing ideas around. Like you guys do all the time. For discussion purposes to find out more about values from other people. To have bigger picture.. I guess you take that as strong well thought out trade offer but its really not. Also I said MULTIPLE times that Blues arent trading Parayko.
May 14, 2020 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Have I done an actual armchair GM team where I did that? No. And if its not there, its just throwing ideas around. Like you guys do all the time. For discussion purposes to find out more about values from other people. To have bigger picture.. I guess you take that as strong well thought out trade offer but its really not. Also I said MULTIPLE times that Blues arent trading Parayko.


Marner for akil Thomas a top 5 pick and another 1st... and that’s like the 1st one I opened
May 14, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
Marner for akil Thomas a top 5 pick and another 1st... and that’s like the 1st one I opened


Yes. A pick 2 years from now. Marner is elite winger. Top-5 pick this year with protection and Akil Thomas. Thats basically price of 9M offersheet.
May 14, 2020 at 1:33 p.m.
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Yes. A pick 2 years from now. Marner is elite winger. Top-5 pick this year with protection and Akil Thomas. Thats basically price of 9M offersheet.


So ur asking a top 5 pick who’s gonna be a elite player akil who is gonna be top 6 player and possibly another elite-top 6 top 4 dman for 1 elite player.. lmao especially to a team that’s rebuilding terrible value and terrible giving away 3 key pieces to a rebuilding team smh
May 14, 2020 at 1:39 p.m.
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So ur asking a top 5 pick who’s gonna be a elite player akil who is gonna be top 6 player and possibly another elite-top 6 top 4 dman for 1 elite player.. lmao especially to a team that’s rebuilding terrible value and terrible giving away 3 key pieces to a rebuilding team smh


Would that player be one of the best wingers in the game? Since when is Akil gonna be top-6 player? Akil Thomas (40-50pt C/W), Lucas Raymond (60-70pt W) and mid round pick in 2022 which would be effective player in like 2024 or 2025. Raymond is the biggest piece from LA there and I love him, but LA is getting by far the best player in that deal.
May 14, 2020 at 1:42 p.m.
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Would that player be one of the best wingers in the game? Since when is Akil gonna be top-6 player? Akil Thomas (40-50pt C/W), Lucas Raymond (60-70pt W) and mid round pick in 2022 which would be effective player in like 2024 or 2025. Raymond is the biggest piece from LA there and I love him, but LA is getting by far the best player in that deal.


Ur delusional especially not thinking akil isn’t top 6 player but you’ll tell me kap and johnsson are... smh take a hike
May 14, 2020 at 1:43 p.m.
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Ur delusional especially not thinking akil isn’t top 6 player but you’ll tell me kap and johnsson are... smh take a hike


I never told anybody they are top-6 players. You must be mistaking me for those idiots saying that crap.
May 14, 2020 at 1:43 p.m.
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I never told anybody they are top-6 players. You must be mistaking me for those idiots saying that crap.


Fair enough my mistake if that’s the case
May 14, 2020 at 1:45 p.m.
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Fair enough my mistake if that’s the case


There are many Leafs fans so I dont blame you. Kap is at best mid-6 player.. can he play top 6 role? Yeah.. but he is not that.. and those saying that they are sure fire top-6 players are just straight up idiots.
May 15, 2020 at 12:31 a.m.
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Toronto wouldn’t accept this because there’s not enough years left on Parayko’s contract
 
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