I want to thank you for using your numbers to prove me right.
Your so called defensive numbers are just so bogus as well. And so is your assumption of Jake has Crosby. Yeah he has crosby and then who? Sheary? Simon?
Marchand's stats didn't take off till he had both Bergy and Pasta on the same line. So spare me the line mates BS. He's been out there playing basically 2 on 3 for his entire career.
And for corsi numbers. This year there was a .1% difference in their 5v5 corsi this year. And Bergeron is a far better face off man than anyone on the Penguins. Winning face offs = control of the puck = a better corsi number.
Has absolutely little to do with Brad's play.

Bererons face offs the last 4 years. 62% 58% 55.7%, 59.7%
Crosby
48.2% 53% 55.4% 55.6%

Yeah gee I wonder why he has a better corsi. Winning the puck matters.
Anyone playing with Bergeron is getting a nice Corsi jump. Because of Bergeron's play not their own.

Jake is a better player than Marchand at the same age and currently. You have nothing to prove it otherwise.
You claim defense yet you can't point to any real statistical evidence of it. Your Corsi argument is bogus.
Jake take away give away which is a huge stat for defense. 5v5 Jake TK 21 GV 8
Brad tk 35 GV 56.
Jake doesn't turn the puck over....Brad does all over the place.
Hell Jake played like 20 less games and had more shot blocks than brad.
Just give it up. Brad isn't a defensive player. He's an agitator with a history of cheap shots that's it.
Yeah he's a good hockey player. But He's not a better player than Jake. Not at the same age, and not now.

Poll

" Just give it up " you're literally the only one thinking Guentzel is the better player (and you're wrong) but if you wanna be biased and believe what you want, it's up to you...

you wish.
You and every boston homer think Brad is the better player, that's it.
The guys on a line with 2 Olympians and one of the best face off men to ever play the game and his 5v5 corsi is .1% better....you.... His corsi is better he's better defensively.....
like WTF is the proof of that. Meanwhile Jake and Crosby play 2 on 3 because their 3rd line mate has always been a joke of a player.
You have nothing, not one stat nothing. We'll wait for some evidence but it's clear by your response you have none.

Weird, haven't seen one ranking, just one, having Guentzel over Marchand among top LWs. Just show me one

Just show me the stats that justify it.
I've listed you tons of them. I have debunked all your "theories" about how he's "better defensively" now go head and put your case together with actual evidence.
You over here worried about some capfriendly user list. I'm over here looking at what happens on the ice.
So go ahead. He's clearly not better offensively. Jake is the better goal scorer noted by two seasons at a 40 goal back to back pace, especially at an age where Brad wasn't even close to that kind of production.
And he clearly doesn't really have this imaginary better corsi you claim he does.
And he's clearly not better defensively by looking at just about every single defensive stat out there. Blocks, hits, take away/give away.
So you just let me know.

Points-per-game over the last 2 seasons combined, LW only.

7. Marchand: 1.26
8. Panarin: 1.23
11. Stamkos: 1.18
13. Huberdeau: 1.13
21. Ovechkin: 1.05
22. Gaudreau: 1.03
27. Guentzel: 0.98
30. Pettersson: 0.95
31. Landeskog: 0.94
33. Teravainen: 0.93
34. Tkachuk: 0.93
36. Connor: 0.91
37. Hall: 0.91
50. Hoffman: 0.85

That's elite company. Is it top-5? I'm not so sure.

(PS. if CGY wants to let Gaudreau go fairly cheap, I'm in.)

Already said Guentzel is better at goal scoring (and literally the only thing he's better at)

Still waiting... zzzzz

Yeah me too.

wow you posted some charts that show Jake doesn't play the PK or PP, nor does he do zone entry.
They you added some really weak team stats, that frankly aren't all that much better. Murray had a bad year, and he has JJ and Schultz behind him defensively.

Good job on posting charts so small no one can read them though and then claiming red bars mean something significant.
Too bad it's easy to copy paste them into paint and blow them up.

I hate Marchand with a burning passion, biggest rat puke in the NHL, but at this point in time, there is no argument, marchand easily