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The Leafs say no, due to no cap space

Jul. 5, 2020 at 6:35 a.m.

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Benning's worth at least a third round pick and a B-prospect.

Benson likely doesnt make the opening night roster, so will likely see a second contract very similar to what Jones was extended for. Two more cheap years. The Pouliot buyout expires after this season: if RNH is expected to make Kevin Hayes esque money on his next deal, that expiring buyout covers the bill sufficiently.

If the team is expecting to resign Larsson in the $3.5-$4M window, resigning Yamamoto effectively means dumping Neal in some manner. If Puljujarvi is insistent on still never coming back to Edmonton, and we know that Seattle is likely wanting to poach Jones, there probably exists some package involving both young men where Seattle takes on Neal's contract and Edmonton still manages a quality draft pick out of it.

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Jul. 5, 2020 at 7:18 a.m.

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The Leafs say no, due to no cap space

Just swap Benning and Kerfoot in a small package amd dont sign Soderberg

PS. I doubt CBJ has any interest in Russell

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Jul. 5, 2020 at 7:58 a.m.

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Just swap Benning and Kerfoot in a small package amd dont sign Soderberg

PS. I doubt CBJ has any interest in Russell

Leafs pass on that as well, they'd be left too thin down the middle.
My assumption is they simply find a taker for Johnsson and call it a day

Jul. 5, 2020 at 8:50 a.m.

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Benning can get a 3rd, or a 2nd. Benson won’t get much money, because he hasn’t proved to be that good, and I don’t even know if he will be up next year. You could probably sign Soderberg for 2.5-3M, after all he is only a 3c and people will mainly be targeting Haula because he is the best 3c in free agency. I would also sign Bear to a short term contract at about 2M, so if you add that up you have about 4.5M in extra I believe. It can be done, you just can’t way overpay everybody.

Jul. 5, 2020 at 10:05 a.m.

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I'm assuming the Russell proposal is actually a "to any team that would accept", because the Jackets wouldn't go anywhere near that - not without a heck of a lot more bribery, anyways.

Jul. 5, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.

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I hope the playoffs happen. That way people will be reminded sooner that Larsson is not a 3rd pair d....

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Jul. 5, 2020 at 10:37 a.m.

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Leafs pass on that as well, they'd be left too thin down the middle.
My assumption is they simply find a taker for Johnsson and call it a day

Kerfoot played LW a bunch in Toronto. I'm not sure why you think they couldn't trade him due to center depth.

Jul. 5, 2020 at 10:39 a.m.

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Just swap Benning and Kerfoot in a small package amd dont sign Soderberg

I think Holland would want a defensively adequate 3C who can kill penalties well so Nugent-Hopkins and Draisaitl don't have to. Kerfoot doesn't qualify.

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Jul. 5, 2020 at 10:40 a.m.

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I hope the playoffs happen. That way people will be reminded sooner that Larsson is not a 3rd pair d....

I don't mind him playing there as it's more support for Jones. But yes, we hear a lot of comments on this board about how much Larsson sucks.

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Jul. 5, 2020 at 10:53 a.m.

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I don't mind him playing there as it's more support for Jones. But yes, we hear a lot of comments on this board about how much Larsson sucks.

Without russell and demoting Larsson I just see a d that is mobile but will get pushed around and very little confidence that anyone else can clear bodies from in front of the net. Nurse can play with an edge but he isn’t that guy every night like larsson is.

Jul. 5, 2020 at 1:19 p.m.

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they have 25 mil in cap space available. the best nuge can get in 7 mil. Yams in gonna get five mil so the remaining cap space is 13 mil. benson at best is gonna get 1.5 mil so 11.5 mil is left which is a lot

Jul. 5, 2020 at 1:21 p.m.

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given the flat cap, there is a chance benson is gonna make the opening night roster. They basically have to choose between ennis and sheahan and if they do the latter, benson has a chance of playing.

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Jul. 5, 2020 at 1:29 p.m.

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Kerfoot played LW a bunch in Toronto. I'm not sure why you think they couldn't trade him due to center depth.

He can play centre, but it's not ideal

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Jul. 5, 2020 at 1:34 p.m.

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given the flat cap, there is a chance benson is gonna make the opening night roster. They basically have to choose between ennis and sheahan and if they do the latter, benson has a chance of playing.

They don't have to resign either Ennis or Sheahan. Its likely both of them are going to price themselves out of Edmonton.

If the team itself recognizes that the flat cap is going to prevent any massive upgrades to the team - especially if they keep Neal - then they'll likely bet on the special teams again. It's likely they keep Chiasson and run him on the top unit with Neal on the second unit.

Holland is also notoriously patient with prospects. The only rookie I'd see making the team would be Bouchard if they don't resign Green. That'll strictly be due to him being too good for the AHL, not because they couldn't afford anyone else

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Jul. 5, 2020 at 1:40 p.m.

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Benson may not make the opening lineup, he for sure later in the season, will be called up

Jul. 5, 2020 at 2:06 p.m.

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Benson may not make the opening lineup, he for sure later in the season, will be called up

If Edmonton's ran right up against the cap, they might not have a choice. Remember, there's going to be anywhere between $400-$700k levied against the Oilers next season if they make it past Chicago.

I just posted an AGM to show what the team could look like in this scenario

Jul. 5, 2020 at 4:10 p.m.

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This is why I traded Chiasson. The oilers were ranked 25-26th I believe on 5v5 scoring. I was just looking for a subtle change on the bottom six to see who can be if not more, be just as productive as Chiasson in 5v5 scoring. The only replaceable winger on the bottom was Chiasson so I went with him.

I think Yamo can replace him on the PP, or I went with the wildcard Kassian. He doesn’t kill penalties so here’s to hoping he becomes a net presence on the PP. That 3.2 mil contract has to be valued.

Jul. 5, 2020 at 4:21 p.m.

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Chiasson can be moved don’t need two pp specialists in bottom 6. Oilers have plenty of options for pp I don’t mind seeing them try a few different looks.

Jul. 5, 2020 at 4:24 p.m.

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Holland might like to keep youth out of lineup longer than most gms but keep in mind Mcloed nearly made the team this year. Considering him an option is far from being far fetched. Benson earned a look very much wouldn’t rule out for opening night. If the AHL is a no go then I’d go ahead and ink them in the line up.

Jul. 6, 2020 at 6:45 a.m.

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Kerfoot played LW a bunch in Toronto. I'm not sure why you think they couldn't trade him due to center depth.

Because they have crappy center depth?

Jul. 6, 2020 at 6:58 a.m.

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Because they have crappy center depth?

If Keefe thought that why would he have played Kerfoot at LW?

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