When you talk with someone about hockey and they tell you that Bergeron is not a great player. This should be the moment for you to change subject because you know the conversation would just be waisted time at that point

If the guy watches the players and has an opinion, that’s fine. Just don’t tell me you want him to provide charts.

The only way he’s not first ballot is if there’s just a bunch of other guys taht retire at the same time. Crosby, ovechkin, malkin etc.

But what the heck is up with that sharks trade.

Trading a number 6-7 D-man for a 5th... AKA business as usual

Why do the bruins do it?

No, I don't need charts, just want to know how they came to the conclusion they did.

@Bf3351 no answer I see

Just saw this. Is this a specific season you are talking about or are you insinuating player A best fits Kopitars career production season wise?

Wow, you're speechless? Guess I win the debate.

Let's try this again and pretend you aren't rxtarded.

Player A has **** linemates on a rebuilding team and gets 62 points.*** (Would have gotten more than 70, but I'm not counting that because pace is meaningless)

Player B plays with the best LW in the NHL and the 3rd best RW in the league on one of the best teams in the league and gets 56 points.***

Player A plays 70 games***
Player B plays 61 games***


Put Kopitar on a line with Marchand and Pastrnak and he's a 90-100+ point player every year. He's a superior play maker and better offensively. He already is better with bad linemates.

Your math is worst than mine.

You're a funny guy though, I appreciate you trying.

I never said he isn't a great player. He is. All I said was it is very debatable who is better, Kopitar or Bergeron.

If it is a waist of time, why did you chime in?

I did not. This was more a general statement. Kopitar is a great player too

No answer I see.

You just contradicted yourself.

You tell me there's no guarantee a player ends up with x number of pts based on pace but you also tell me " Put Kopitar on a line with Marchand and Pastrnak and he's a 90-100+ point player every year ", which is an assumption but it's not guaranteed.

Congrats.

That's not really a contradiction. He's more of a fact.

Bergeron has never gotten 80 points in his life so it's hard to believe even if he's on "pace" that he would actually get there. Meanwhile with bad linemates Kopitar has accomplished 70,80,90+ point seasons. So it's only factual to imagine he'd get 90,100+ points playing with Marchand and Pastrnak.

It still cracks me up how you try to debate me over the same things and lose every time. I should start charging you for rematches.

It's the same thing. You contradicted yourself.

And it doesn't matter if Kopitar plays with 63 & 88 because he never will.

And you lost another debate

" And you lost another debate "

You don't seem to understand you're talking about the same thing but with a different perspective, that's it.

No guarantee Kopitar gets 90 pts with Marchand and Pastrnak but very likely.
No guarantee Bergeron would have had 100 pts last year but very likely.

" pAcE mEaNs nOtHiNg "