Value aside MTL is looking to trade a center for a top pairing LHD or top 6 RW. Dont think Kadri would be on thier radar

Isnt the main reason Tampa would move cerelli if at all is to free up space? If he resigns at 5x5 they only save 500k

Kadri blocks the trade to MTL

How about Graves+ for Danault? Then Colorado move Kadri in a separate trade for a top 6 forward or LHD.

Alternatively a 3-way trade, with Danault/Domi heading to Colorado, Kadri headed to a 3rd team, and Montreal getting a LHD from the 3rd team.

Why move kadri?

The Kadri to Tampa idea would involve retention from Colorado. Between $1m and $2.25m.

Fwiw Sakic used 50% retention on Barrie to facilitate the acquisition of Kadri, so I think it's definitely something he'd consider doing again under the right circumstances. Retaining on Kadri wouldn't be an issue at all in 2020/21, but would be trickier in 2021/22. It would be worth the squeeze for 1 year though if it enables us to acquire a young and elite defensive 2C though.

Cirelli for Kadri (50% retained) + pick/prospect. Easily doable, and works for both teams.

He's one of the older players on the team, and his 5v5 metrics aren't as good as our team average (see the link in the description above).

That said, I think he's been fine overall so I wouldn't look to force a trade. I'd only do it if it was possible to upgrade or get a younger similar player.

Still, wouldnt they need to free up like 8 mill, they could probably move cerelli for picks and prospect and not miss a beat

They'd be fine if they just move Gourde and they'd be fine. Here's an AGM I just put together from the Tampa perspective: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1814213

It's a very strong lineup, and also gets Sergachev and Cernak paid reasonable amounts. Stamkos/Point/Kadri down the middle would be as good as any C depth in the league.

Haha you can make the numbers fit if you underpay sergachev and cermak and the avs retain 2.5 for 2 years... it's just not likely, you are also moving kilorn and gourde not just gourde

Gourde full NTC and kilorn 16 team no trade

I take it as a given that Killorn will get traded. 16 team protection may help him eliminate Canadian teams and some bottom-dwellers, but there will still be some takers for him. Tampa may need to pay a 3rd team to retain something though, but one way or another I think it's 99% certain that he'll get moved, unless of course one more guy with full NTC waives.

$5.85m x 3-4 years for Sergachev isn't that bad.

Sakic retained 50% on Barrie to get Kadri, i don't see why he wouldn't consider doing that again if it meant getting a young elite 2C. We do have the capspace to do a retention after all.

If all the bottom dwellers are blocked, who can afford to add kilorn with no salary going back the other way?

After the way last offseason went down for the last batch of RFAs sergachev holds out for a bit to see his options and/or what comparables will fetch.

And yes sakic retained on barrie who was a pending UFA and had no future with this team in order to get a 2C which they desperately needed.. so you think it's possible he retains the same amount for 2 years when he is about to hit a cap crunch of his own to "possibly" upgrade his 2C, all the while knowing that Tampa is up against it and desperate to sell players under market value

If you're going to try and fleece Tampa, finally in and make them a hefty offer for stammer

I'm sure one of the teams like Nashville, Dallas, Boston, Florida, Rangers, Columbus, Arizona, Calgary, San Jose, or Vancouver, would be interested in him. Obviously not all have tonnes of capspace, but if Tampa get a 3rd team (Detroit?) to do them a favour and retain a bit for a pick, it's possible they could make it happen.

Not sure it's prudent to acquire an $8.5m contract like that, considering that it runs beyond 2023.

Haha why not? Haven't you been creating a ton of ACGMs that have taylor hall signed for 5-7 years at 8.5 or more?

Hmm I guess it would work. I just think with Newhook coming in it makes less sense to have that money allocated to a C. But sure, why not. I wouldn't want to give up a tonne for him though.

Neither would I, but picks and prospects are probably what they are wanting because they have low salary or maybe cheap roster players like graves or jost