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Lose Lottery Trade Up Idea

Created by: cbalzer28
Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 5, 2020
Published: Aug. 5, 2020
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Lose lottery but honestly Rangers need a center more than a LW at this point so trade up to get Byfield/Rossi would be ideal. Especially since picks 3,4,5 could all use a goalie and LA is rumored Stutzle at 2.
Think they sign Deangelo to 1 year Arb and revisit next offseason. Possibly trade if Nils comes over
Trade Strome Straight up for a LHD with 1 or 2 years left and similar contract.
Buyout Staal or trade him with picks for cap dump
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$5,500,000
1$1,000,000
1$925,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Byfield, Quinton
1$925,000
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. 2020 1st round pick (SJS)
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3rd overall
OTT
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [RFA Rights]
  2. Rykov, Yegor
  3. 2020 1st round pick (NYR)
Additional Details:
pick 9 or 10 overall
If not enough could add a 3rd rd pick as well but only jumping 6 spots
2.
DAL
  1. Strome, Ryan [RFA Rights]
Buyouts
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$71,237,300$0$9,212,500$10,262,700

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$11,642,857$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
Byfield, Quinton
$925,000$925,000
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
RW
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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LD
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
G
UFA - 1
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$2,137,500$2,137,500
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
LD
RFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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LD/RD, LW
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LW
UFA - 1

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Aug. 5, 2020 at 10:06 a.m.
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BAD for Ottawa
Aug. 5, 2020 at 10:09 a.m.
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Give Strome, Georgiev, 1st for the 5 OA but the 3rd OA is locked with Byfield or Stutzle
Aug. 5, 2020 at 10:17 a.m.
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That's not good for Ottawa at all. Would you have taken Anders Niilson, Max Lajoie and 9 OA for Kakko last year?
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Aug. 5, 2020 at 10:24 a.m.
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OTT doesn't need Georgiev or Rykov in the slightest. They decline easily.

But Oleksiak for Strome seems nice from DAL perspective. They'll take it.
Aug. 5, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the NYR don't have the 9th or 10th pick. Aren't they like 16th?. Only way of them going that high is Chicago, MTL, and all the other teams ahead of them winning their play in series. I'm gonna say its unlikely that every single lower seed wins
Aug. 5, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.
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Ottawa laugh You're not moving up 6 or 7 spots for those pieces. Not even close enough to move up that many spots.
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Aug. 5, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Correct me if I'm wrong but the NYR don't have the 9th or 10th pick. Aren't they like 16th?. Only way of them going that high is Chicago, MTL, and all the other teams ahead of them winning their play in series. I'm gonna say its unlikely that every single lower seed wins


They get anywhere from 9-14 depending on how the play in rounds pan out
Aug. 5, 2020 at 10:55 a.m.
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Ottawa laugh You're not moving up 6 or 7 spots for those pieces. Not even close enough to move up that many spots.


Ottawa is getting a starting goalie and a defensive prospect that is ready in a year, to fall 6 spots. Unless your ok with unknown commodities in net. Like I said throw in a 3rd rd pick as well but Its only 6 or 7 spots in one of the deepest drafts eve. Drysdale, Perfetti or Lundell could potentially fall to 9
Aug. 5, 2020 at 10:57 a.m.
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That's not good for Ottawa at all. Would you have taken Anders Niilson, Max Lajoie and 9 OA for Kakko last year?


Youre comparing 30 YO life long backup in Nilson to Georgiev who is a cheap starter in this league that is in his early 20's still and will continue to improve. And I actually like Lajoie and the Rangers didnt need a goalie last year so its not apples to apples.
Aug. 5, 2020 at 11:03 a.m.
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Youre comparing 30 YO life long backup in Nilson to Georgiev who is a cheap starter in this league that is in his early 20's still and will continue to improve. And I actually like Lajoie and the Rangers didnt need a goalie last year so its not apples to apples.


Detroit would've to give up more expensive pieces just to move up 3 spots, Like i said those pieces aren't moving you up 6 or 7 spots not even close.
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Aug. 5, 2020 at 11:07 a.m.
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Ottawa is getting a starting goalie and a defensive prospect that is ready in a year, to fall 6 spots. Unless your ok with unknown commodities in net. Like I said throw in a 3rd rd pick as well but Its only 6 or 7 spots in one of the deepest drafts eve. Drysdale, Perfetti or Lundell could potentially fall to 9


No they aren’t. They are taking Byfield or Stutzle at 3. The only way they don’t is an overpay, and let’s face it that isn’t even enough for them to consider doing it. And NO way Drysdale drops to 9, and very unlikely Perfetti does either. In fact it is highly unlikely that the Rangers pick 9, in fact the odds are better that they pick 1OA instead of 9.
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Aug. 5, 2020 at 11:17 a.m.
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Youre comparing 30 YO life long backup in Nilson to Georgiev who is a cheap starter in this league that is in his early 20's still and will continue to improve. And I actually like Lajoie and the Rangers didnt need a goalie last year so its not apples to apples.


Sorry, meant to note that the difference in value between Lajoie and Rykov is likely the difference between Nilsson and Georgiev.

If you think about it, the Sens don't really need a goalie this year either though. It's not like they're going to be competitive, they have Nilsson and Hogberg already. If they want to upgrade in net, there's a bevy of short and/or long term options available in free agency. I'm not sold on Georgiev being a long term answer for anything other than a 35-40 game/year option.

If you're giving up a guy like Byfield or Stutzle, you better be getting back a sure thing, not 3 big question marks.
Aug. 5, 2020 at 12:46 p.m.
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Sorry, meant to note that the difference in value between Lajoie and Rykov is likely the difference between Nilsson and Georgiev.

If you think about it, the Sens don't really need a goalie this year either though. It's not like they're going to be competitive, they have Nilsson and Hogberg already. If they want to upgrade in net, there's a bevy of short and/or long term options available in free agency. I'm not sold on Georgiev being a long term answer for anything other than a 35-40 game/year option.

If you're giving up a guy like Byfield or Stutzle, you better be getting back a sure thing, not 3 big question marks.


I disagree, he has gradually been given more games every year and continues to impress, obviously every cheap contract still has something to prove but thats why there not making 8 mil a year. The risk you run to get a good starting goalie under control for years to come and to start at 2 mil/year. instead you could end up paying big money for those UFA's in a tight cap crunch year.
Aug. 5, 2020 at 12:48 p.m.
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No they aren’t. They are taking Byfield or Stutzle at 3. The only way they don’t is an overpay, and let’s face it that isn’t even enough for them to consider doing it. And NO way Drysdale drops to 9, and very unlikely Perfetti does either. In fact it is highly unlikely that the Rangers pick 9, in fact the odds are better that they pick 1OA instead of 9.


I mean every series they need to come out is tied 1-1 so anything could happen but thats why I said 9 or 10. But I think we will be surprised who is still there at 9 or 10 in this draft.
Aug. 5, 2020 at 1:03 p.m.
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I mean every series they need to come out is tied 1-1 so anything could happen but thats why I said 9 or 10. But I think we will be surprised who is still there at 9 or 10 in this draft.


There is always something that happens, but this year unless somebody pulls the trigger on Sanderson or say Mercer, the top 8 is Laf, Byfield, Stutzle, Raymond, Rossi, Drysdale, Holtz, Perfetti. But somebody always does so yeah you could be right, I remember just last year being shocked DET took Seider at 6 and the Oilers taking Broberg at 8.
Aug. 5, 2020 at 1:13 p.m.
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I disagree, he has gradually been given more games every year and continues to impress, obviously every cheap contract still has something to prove but thats why there not making 8 mil a year. The risk you run to get a good starting goalie under control for years to come and to start at 2 mil/year. instead you could end up paying big money for those UFA's in a tight cap crunch year.


Georgiev's .910 save percentage is league average for 2019-2020. His GAA is .22 above league average. His GA% is exactly league average. His quality shot % is exactly league average. His GSAA was .12.

Every single one of his numbers screams "League average". Does he have potential? Sure! Would I give up Byfield or Stutzle, and move back 6 places in the draft to see if he's going to hit it? Not a chance.
Aug. 5, 2020 at 1:28 p.m.
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There is always something that happens, but this year unless somebody pulls the trigger on Sanderson or say Mercer, the top 8 is Laf, Byfield, Stutzle, Raymond, Rossi, Drysdale, Holtz, Perfetti. But somebody always does so yeah you could be right, I remember just last year being shocked DET took Seider at 6 and the Oilers taking Broberg at 8.


I feel like it always seems set in stone but the rangers taking Kravstov at 9 was a shock even, I have seen people not as high on Raymond, and Holtz and higher on Lundell but yea anything could happen past Lafreniere, Byfield/Stutzle. IMO
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Aug. 5, 2020 at 1:31 p.m.
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Georgiev's .910 save percentage is league average for 2019-2020. His GAA is .22 above league average. His GA% is exactly league average. His quality shot % is exactly league average. His GSAA was .12.

Every single one of his numbers screams "League average". Does he have potential? Sure! Would I give up Byfield or Stutzle, and move back 6 places in the draft to see if he's going to hit it? Not a chance.


He also played in a 3 goalie rotation with one of the worst defenses in the league so I would take those numbers with a grain of salt. Ive seen nearly every game of his and I think he is clearly a starter in this league and top 15 potential in the right situation. But I guess we wait and see and honestly winning the lottery and keeping him and Igor would be my favorite outcome so he doesnt haunt the Rangers for years to come
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Aug. 5, 2020 at 1:40 p.m.
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He also played in a 3 goalie rotation with one of the worst defenses in the league so I would take those numbers with a grain of salt. Ive seen nearly every game of his and I think he is clearly a starter in this league and top 15 potential in the right situation. But I guess we wait and see and honestly winning the lottery and keeping him and Igor would be my favorite outcome so he doesnt haunt the Rangers for years to come


Yeah, like I said, he could certainly become good, but it's certainly not a risk that I'd take right now.

I do think that the amount you get offered for him is going to decline the longer you hold onto him though. If he's still around next spring, he's going to Seattle.
Aug. 5, 2020 at 2:13 p.m.
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Yeah, like I said, he could certainly become good, but it's certainly not a risk that I'd take right now.

I do think that the amount you get offered for him is going to decline the longer you hold onto him though. If he's still around next spring, he's going to Seattle.


He's the only one they have to protect, everyone else is exempt and Hank is gone.
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Aug. 5, 2020 at 2:22 p.m.
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He's the only one they have to protect, everyone else is exempt and Hank is gone.


I guess they just have to grab someone off waivers, or trade for someone that they leave unprotected? Never really 100% sure how it works, other than that you have to expose at least 1 goalie, and that players with 2 or less years are exempt.
Aug. 5, 2020 at 4:56 p.m.
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Ottawa is getting a starting goalie and a defensive prospect that is ready in a year, to fall 6 spots. Unless your ok with unknown commodities in net. Like I said throw in a 3rd rd pick as well but Its only 6 or 7 spots in one of the deepest drafts eve. Drysdale, Perfetti or Lundell could potentially fall to 9

Do you not know how good of D prospects they have?? I mean Rykov is a decent piece but still
 
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