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Created by: chloewoj
Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 5, 2020
Published: Aug. 5, 2020
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just to be clear, THESE ARE NOT MY TRADE PROPOSlmfao. i don’t want to lose the small amount of credibility that i have on this site.

https://theathletic.com/1971807/2020/08/04/what-might-the-return-be-in-a-hypothetical-trade-for-jack-eichel/?source=user_shared_article
Trades
1.
BUF
    Nikolaj Ehlers
    Josh Morrissey
    2020 1st Round Pick
    WPG
      Jack Eichel
      2.
      BUF
        Auston Matthews
        Zach Hyman
        Martin Marincin
        2020 3rd Round Pick
        TOR
          Jack Eichel
          Rasmus Ristolainen
          Marcus Johansson
          Kyle Okposo
          3.
          BUF
            Vladimir Tarasenko
            Justin Faulk
            Robert Thomas
            2020 1st Round Pick
            STL
              Jack Eichel
              Colin Miller
              Dylan Cozens
              2020 1st Round Pick
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              2020
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              Aug. 5, 2020 at 4:16 p.m.
              #26
              mokumboi
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              Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
              Taresanko? Who didn't play at all
              Faulk? Who struggled
              Thomas?

              You are getting an upgrade at every position including a pick lol

              I'm just in awe that anyone would be against this.

              Likebinwouldnt even take this trade if cozens and our first were removed



              Tarasenko and Thomas are key players on the defending Cup champs. Duh-doy. Don't be daft, it undercuts all possible credibility while you call someone a moron.
              Aug. 5, 2020 at 4:18 p.m.
              #27
              Lets Go Blues
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              Quoting: mokumboi
              #1 what? Got a link?


              https://theathletic.com/1880791/2020/07/06/wheeler-the-top-50-drafted-nhl-prospects-ranking-2020-edition/?article_source=search&search_query=prospects

              Paywall, but here's his part of his take:

              "I began to give Cozens the slight edge over his peers at the top because of his unique blend of straight line speed and puckhandling ability for his size, as well as his improved finishing touch. For every defining skill that some of the other players atop my ranking had, they often also had traits that could prevent them from maximizing those standout tools. Cozens had fewer holes, which made me ever so slightly more confident in his ability to reach the top of his projection."
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              Aug. 5, 2020 at 4:21 p.m.
              #28
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              Quoting: mokumboi
              Tarasenko and Thomas are key players on the defending Cup champs. Duh-doy. Don't be daft, it undercuts all possible credibility while you call someone a moron.


              Like I said tarasenko didn't play all year and you guys did just fine. And eichel and cozens are an upgrade over thomas and you get a top 10 pick. So duh-boy you take that.
              Aug. 5, 2020 at 4:26 p.m.
              #29
              mokumboi
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              Quoting: A_K
              https://theathletic.com/1880791/2020/07/06/wheeler-the-top-50-drafted-nhl-prospects-ranking-2020-edition/?article_source=search&search_query=prospects

              Paywall, but here's his part of his take:

              "I began to give Cozens the slight edge over his peers at the top because of his unique blend of straight line speed and puckhandling ability for his size, as well as his improved finishing touch. For every defining skill that some of the other players atop my ranking had, they often also had traits that could prevent them from maximizing those standout tools. Cozens had fewer holes, which made me ever so slightly more confident in his ability to reach the top of his projection."



              I have The Athletic. Interesting take, though to me, Wheeler underrates defensemen on these lists. By the way, Pronman has him like 11th or 12th on his list of top prospects outside the NHL (which covers the same player pool as Wheeler's plus '20 & '21 draft kids). I'm somewhere in between those two guys, I'd probably slot him 7-9 or so.
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              Aug. 5, 2020 at 4:26 p.m.
              #30
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              Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
              Like I said tarasenko didn't play all year and you guys did just fine.



              Here, let me help you move those goalposts...
              Aug. 5, 2020 at 5:13 p.m.
              #31
              Formerly Jamiepo
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              Quoting: A_K
              1. We'd get the best player at the best position in the deal, possibly the best two when you look at the upside of Cozens.
              2. We'd save cap, long- and short-term
              3. We'd be more competitive long- and short-term
              4. We'd pick in the top-10 for the first time since we landed Pietrangelo
              5. Even if Thomas ends up better than Cozens we still win this by a mile

              I get the concern about making changes to a winning team, but come on, these are clear improvements - how often can you grab a top 10 NHL center, age 23, with 6 years on his deal, in a trade? And Cozens is easily a top-5 prospect outside the NHL, with all of the tools to translate to a top six center while he's still on his ELC.


              Sensible fan...

              In my opinion cozens>Thomas. Unproven sure but I have seen a ton of him in Lethbridge. I have no doubt his game will translate well in the nhl level.
              Aug. 5, 2020 at 5:22 p.m.
              #32
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              Quoting: Jamiepo
              Sensible fan...

              In my opinion cozens>Thomas. Unproven sure but I have seen a ton of him in Lethbridge. I have no doubt his game will translate well in the nhl level.


              Yeah I could see that. I'm definitely excited to see Cozens in the show. Both guys have tons of talent - their ultimate ceilings are probably dictated by their roles/organizational depth. I.e. they both might be viewed as 2C's in the long run but should be able to carry their lines and be sorta underrated if they stay behind ROR and Eichel. Thomas will be a crafty playmaker with his elite edgework and Cozens will be a more complete guy with his size/speed/tenacity/shot.
               
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