that's a big ol hell no from toronto

Yea I’d **** my pants in excitement of Toronto accepted that!

Seen ample Marner proposals for far less. But let me guess "no one wants Burns he stinks" is the logic behind it even though he's a year removed from being a PPG defender and the best conditioned player in the league. Whole org took a dump this season and he was not immune to it. Still a #1 D-Man in this league and will be for the next 3 years at least given the shape he's in.

Shattenkirk has been very good. He wants to stay in Tampa and would take a discount. I do not think TB can afford him. I'd guess he will be looking for 3 years and at least 4 million. He deserves it.

It's almost like people have made a ton of really bad marner proposals. And yes, there is that 'no one want burns' logic because he's 35 years old and being a year removed from being a ppg player more than likely means decline instead of a bad year. Also his contract is bad, and even with the retained is way too much for way too long. And no, he probably wont be a #1 D man, he isnt much of one right now. Aging curves are a real thing that people always seem to ignore with their own players

The thing with burns is hes 35 and has 6 years left on his contract. Its not super atractive.