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Bye Strome Bye ADA Hello Cirelli

Created by: buchiegang
Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 13, 2020
Published: Aug. 13, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
2$1,750,000
2$2,750,000
5$4,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$700,000
2$2,750,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Lafreniere, Alexis
3$925,000
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. Smith, C.J.
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Strome, Ryan [RFA Rights]
2.
NYR
  1. Yelesin, Alexander
  2. 2020 1st round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Deangelo, Anthony [RFA Rights]
3.
NYR
  1. Cirelli, Anthony [RFA Rights]
TBL
  1. Aaltonen, Leevi [Reserve List]
  2. 2020 1st round pick (CAR)
  3. 2021 4th round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$74,274,799$0$8,787,500$7,225,201

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$11,642,857$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
RW
RFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
Lafreniere, Alexis
$925,000$925,000
$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
LD
RFA - 3
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$5,700,000$5,700,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$833,333$833,333
LD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$809,167$809,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
RW
UFA - 2

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Aug. 13, 2020 at 4:28 p.m.
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Quoting: buchiegang
Hah! Chytil and Ludnkvist for Cirelli in your dreams! But at any rate I hope it works out for you. If I was Cirelli I'd rather play with Panarin then Alex Killorn but that's me...

Isn't Pelltier a C?


How is Panarin a convincing factor on where you play? I would rather play with people I know and am comfortable around than a player I don't know just because he's a good player. If I was Cirelli I would rather play in warm Tampa Bay where I don't have to pay ridiculous taxes and expensive housing, also play on a legitimate cup contender.

No Pelletire is definitely not a center, he probably hasn't played center since rep
Aug. 13, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Buffsbrain
Didn't Tony D hold out to the hurricanes that he would only play for the blue shirts? Would be ironic if they shipped him out


Funny enough though, thats what with Vesey. Buffalo acquired his rights from Nashville and then he ended up signing w/ New York. New York 3 years later traded him to Buffalo lol. In total Buffalo paid a pair of 3rd rounders for Vesey
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Aug. 13, 2020 at 4:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
How is Panarin a convincing factor on where you play? I would rather play with people I know and am comfortable around than a player I don't know just because he's a good player. If I was Cirelli I would rather play in warm Tampa Bay where I don't have to pay ridiculous taxes and expensive housing, also play on a legitimate cup contender.

No Pelletire is definitely not a center, he probably hasn't played center since rep


Just joking about infering the Rangers are an inferior team. Maybe now, but in a couple of years watch out!

Your 100% right my bad. Just checked his EP page...
Aug. 13, 2020 at 4:36 p.m.
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Quoting: buchiegang
True but teams are not trading for Strome w/ Panarin. They/re trading for the player Ryan Strome has been his entire career a middle 6, playmaking C. That is fair value...

This I can understand more. However, the key point is "this year." We have all seen flash and in the pan one year wonders in the league (see above). Teams will not pay a premium elite d-man price in a trade for ADA unless he shows he can play that way consistently. And I'm happy to keep him (for now) if we can find him the minutes



That's pretty dumb. It fails the simple logic test. This is Strome's first year playing consistently in the top 6. If you want to count someone's true value as how they are with 4th liners as linemates like Strome had in Edmonton (Jujhar Khaira was his main linemate) that's fine but be consistent. If Strome is a 35 point 2 way player when he's with 4th liners and that's his "true value", let's apply that logic to some other guys who have had big seasons once they found Elite linemates

If Sam Reinhart is a 45-50 point player with Ryan O'Reilly as his main linemate for a few seasons, Then became a 65-70 point player next to Eichel. What's the difference in point production in moving from being on a line with Ryan O'Reilly to being on a line with Zemgus Girgensons? More than 10 points? If it's more than 10 points then there's really not a good argument for Reinhart to be worth more than Strome....

If Elias Lindholm is a 45-50 point player in the top 6 alongside Jeff Skinner in Carolina playing PP1..... How much of a producer is he with Marcus Kruger? Would you say the difference between Kruger and Skinner as a linemate is probably at least 10 points?

We can go on like this, but the point is that as much as you can try and say that Panarin boosted Strome's performance this year, his bottom 6 linemates equally dragged it down before. And selectively applying the logic is dumb. If you want to see someone who was barely an NHLer and is now being carried by elite linemates offensively, you might have better luck looking at Dylan Strome

Not sure what you mean by consistency from Deangelo's consistency..... he was top 20 among dmen in points/60 last year. All while dragging around Marc Staal as his primary defensive partner. Not sure how much more consistent you can get.
Aug. 13, 2020 at 4:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Sagecoll
That's pretty dumb. It fails the simple logic test. This is Strome's first year playing consistently in the top 6. If you want to count someone's true value as how they are with 4th liners as linemates like Strome had in Edmonton (Jujhar Khaira was his main linemate) that's fine but be consistent. If Strome is a 35 point 2 way player when he's with 4th liners and that's his "true value", let's apply that logic to some other guys who have had big seasons once they found Elite linemates

If Sam Reinhart is a 45-50 point player with Ryan O'Reilly as his main linemate for a few seasons, Then became a 65-70 point player next to Eichel. What's the difference in point production in moving from being on a line with Ryan O'Reilly to being on a line with Zemgus Girgensons? More than 10 points? If it's more than 10 points then there's really not a good argument for Reinhart to be worth more than Strome....

If Elias Lindholm is a 45-50 point player in the top 6 alongside Jeff Skinner in Carolina playing PP1..... How much of a producer is he with Marcus Kruger? Would you say the difference between Kruger and Skinner as a linemate is probably at least 10 points?

We can go on like this, but the point is that as much as you can try and say that Panarin boosted Strome's performance this year, his bottom 6 linemates equally dragged it down before. And selectively applying the logic is dumb. If you want to see someone who was barely an NHLer and is now being carried by elite linemates offensively, you might have better luck looking at Dylan Strome

Not sure what you mean by consistency from Deangelo's consistency..... he was top 20 among dmen in points/60 last year. All while dragging around Marc Staal as his primary defensive partner. Not sure how much more consistent you can get.


I've never placed an opinion on the value of Lindholm or Reinhart. Nor did I say Strome is a 35point, two way guy because he is certainly better then 35 points and in no terms is he a two way player despite his utilization by DQ. What I'm saying is Ryan Strome will never produce like he did this year ever again. Never. His tract record as a player shows that. From his rookie 50 point season with NYI, his TOI did not go down and the quality of his line mates actually IMPROVED in the following two years where he struggled. He is what he is...
 
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