Crazy idea to mitigate future cap issue part 2

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Created by: DH28Hockey

Team: 2021-22 Philadelphia Flyers

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 13, 2020

Published: Aug. 13, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas	1	$1,200,000
Hart, Carter	8	$10,500,000
Hägg, Robert	1	$1,400,000
Patrick, Nolan	2	$3,500,000
Myers, Philippe	4	$3,650,000
Bunnaman, Connor	2	$950,000
Rubtsov, German	2	$850,000
Cirelli, Anthony	7	$5,850,000
Sanheim, Travis	5	$5,500,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Niskanen, Matt	2	$4,000,000
Laughton, Scott	4	$4,400,000
Raffl, Michael	1	$1,000,000
Grant, Derek	1	$1,500,000
Khudobin, Anton	1	$3,200,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
York, Cam		3	$900,000

Trades

PHI

Cirelli, Anthony [RFA Rights]
2021 1st round pick (TBL)

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Part 1

TBL

Couturier, Sean

PHI

2021 2nd round pick (NYI)
2022 4th round pick (NJD)

NJD

van Riemsdyk, James

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Part 1

PHI

ANA

Voracek, Jakub
2021 2nd round pick (PHI)

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Philadelphia gives up a second round pick for Seattle to take Voracek in Expansion draft

PHI

Gaudreau, Johnny

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Why Calgary does this: After being unable to move him the year before and not being able to negotiate an extension, Gaudreaus NTC kicks in leaving their trade options limited. After being able to negotiate an extension with Philly, Calgary gets back a solid replacement in Giroux, a long term piece for their blue line, and a high draft pick

CGY

Giroux, Claude
Sanheim, Travis
2021 1st round pick (PHI)

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Why Philly does this: Giroux will be a bit older at this point and would cost a considerable amount of money to extend for declining production. Sanheim would simply be the casualty of having tons of young players like York and Zamula ready to come up in the pipeline. Gaudreau is much younger and would love to play for Philly, and it would be hard for Philly to pass up on the opportunity to bring him in

Buyouts

Ilya Bryzgalov: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$73,459,762	$0	$600,000	$8,040,238

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Gaudreau, Johnny $6,750,000$6,750,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Cirelli, Anthony $5,850,000$5,850,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Farabee, Joel $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) LW, RW UFA - 1
Laughton, Scott $4,400,000$4,400,000 C, LW UFA - 5	Hayes, Kevin $3,571,429$3,571,429 C NMC UFA - 5	Konecny, Travis $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Lindblom, Oskar $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW UFA - 2	Patrick, Nolan $3,500,000$3,500,000 C, RW UFA - 2
Raffl, Michael $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Frost, Morgan $863,333$863,333 C RFA - 1
	Grant, Derek $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas $1,200,000$1,200,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Provorov, Ivan $4,725,000$4,725,000 LD UFA - 4	Myers, Philippe $3,650,000$3,650,000 RD UFA - 2
Gostisbehere, Shayne $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Niskanen, Matt $4,000,000$4,000,000 RD UFA	Hart, Carter $10,500,000$10,500,000 G RFA - 3
	Friedman, Mark $725,000$725,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Khudobin, Anton $3,200,000$3,200,000 G UFA - 2
York, Cam $900,000$900,000

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Hägg, Robert $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD UFA - 1
Rubtsov, German $850,000$850,000 C UFA - 1
Bunnaman, Connor $950,000$950,000 C, LW UFA - 2

Aug. 13, 2020 at 6:12 p.m.

flamesfan

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Flames decline if you want gaudreau it will cost konecny and frost

Aug. 13, 2020 at 6:17 p.m.

DH28Hockey

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Quoting: flamesfan

Flames decline if you want gaudreau it will cost konecny and frost

That would be an insidious overpayment for a guy we could theoretically wait to hit free agency a year later. Konecny is cheaper younger locked up longer has a physical edge to his game and literally outscored Gaudreau this season. Adding Frost would just be overkill to the extreme

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Aug. 13, 2020 at 6:20 p.m.

BurnEmUp

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Quoting: flamesfan

Flames decline if you want gaudreau it will cost konecny and frost

I wish we could get that package. Maybe before the 2019/20 season it might have been possible. Now it would be hard to get just Konecny alone I'm thinking.

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Aug. 13, 2020 at 6:21 p.m.

VastBluepuppy424

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Can't wait intil Gaudreau becomes extended with 10+ million for 8 years with a NMC cause he has a great year and Everyone offer sheets Patrick and Lindblom the next year cause they both have a great year and want long term contract with real money

Aug. 13, 2020 at 6:24 p.m.

DH28Hockey

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Quoting: VastBluepuppy424

Don't think right now Gadreau would get that much. I would think given his average production at 8 years accounting for a slight discount to play in Philly he would sign for 8.5-9ish million AAV, which would give Philly enough money to match any offer sheet on Lindblom and Patrick, hence the entire premise behind this

Aug. 13, 2020 at 6:31 p.m.

VastBluepuppy424

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Edited Aug. 13, 2020 at 6:37 p.m.

Quoting: DH28Hockey

he still will have a NMC thought, plus who are you going to sign on D when Lindblom and Patrick do sign with Philly on contracts like 7*7M each

Aug. 13, 2020 at 6:34 p.m.

cgy_flame_fan

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Quoting: flamesfan

Flames decline if you want gaudreau it will cost konecny and frost

no it wont, we might do gaudreau for konecny straight up

Aug. 13, 2020 at 6:34 p.m.

DH28Hockey

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Quoting: VastBluepuppy424

he still will have a NMC thought, plus who are you going to sign on D when Lindblom and Patrick do sign with Philly on contracts like 7*9M each

Lindblom is great but I would highly doubt he will end up being a 9 million AAV player. Patrick has the potential to be, but he is too far from that now to account for that.

Aug. 13, 2020 at 6:39 p.m.

VastBluepuppy424

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Quoting: DH28Hockey

Lindblom is great but I would highly doubt he will end up being a 9 million AAV player. Patrick has the potential to be, but he is too far from that now to account for that.

ok, what about 7 million AAV for them

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Aug. 13, 2020 at 6:46 p.m.

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DH28Hockey

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Quoting: VastBluepuppy424

ok, what about 7 million AAV for them

Much more likely, they're both young guys with rough health issues in the past though so it'll be a bit of a waiting game

Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:06 p.m.

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I understand why you're doing this but realistically I think the timing of the giroux and couturier ending together is so that they are basically able to swap contracts G will be 34 I can't see him asking for a raise at that point and Couturier probably gets around 9m purely because of the flat cap for the next two years

Aug. 13, 2020 at 8:14 p.m.

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DH28Hockey

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Quoting: flyersarephilly

If Couturier were to make 9 million AAV I would never move him, I did this because I expect him to make roughly 11 million even with the flat cap

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Aug. 14, 2020 at 1:20 p.m.

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flyersarephilly

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Quoting: DH28Hockey

If Couturier were to make 9 million AAV I would never move him, I did this because I expect him to make roughly 11 million even with the flat cap

I think he's the type to take less to stay in Philly especially if they're a contender I also find it hard to believe that any team is going to start handing out 11m AAV besides Toronto I think at most he would get 10m

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