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Created by: WCSF

Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 17, 2020

Published: Aug. 17, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

There have been rumours over the past months that the Sabres covet Monahan and/or Gaudreau. They also have a hole on left defence. A trade of this size is obviously highly unlikely. This is just an exercise in:

1.) Gauging value. Are the Sabres giving up enough in this scenario or does it fall short value-wise?
2.) Are the Sabres parting with two much futures in Cozens and 8th O/A in 2020?
3.) Could the Sabres make this work cap-wise? It looks like it could work for 20/21. In 21/22 they would need to move Risto or Miller and likely one other vet contract in order to get Dahlen, Jokiharju and other RFA's signed.
4.) Would this make the Sabres not just a playoff team but a contender? There is a huge question mark in net. There is a lack of grit up front and perhaps insufficient depth after line 3 (though Mittlestadt, Asplund and Ruotsalainen could contribute). As desperate as the Sabres are to get in the playoffs, this isn't a trade you make just to be "competitive" for a playoff spot.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Johansson, Jonas	1	$825,000
Kahun, Dominik	3	$2,750,000
Lazar, Curtis	1	$800,000
Mittelstadt, Casey	1	$1,000,000
Olofsson, Victor	3	$4,250,000
Thompson, Tage	1	$1,000,000
Ullmark, Linus	3	$2,750,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Larsson, Johan		3	$2,500,000

Trades

BUF

Gaudreau, Johnny
Hanifin, Noah
Monahan, Sean
2020 3rd round pick (EDM)

CGY

Cozens, Dylan
Johnson, Ryan [Reserve List]
Montour, Brandon [RFA Rights]
Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
2020 1st round pick (BUF)

Buyouts

Cody Hodgson: $791,667
Christian Ehrhoff: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$79,180,833	$1,487,500	$3,487,500	$2,319,167

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Gaudreau, Johnny $6,750,000$6,750,000 LW UFA - 2	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 6	Olofsson, Victor $4,250,000$4,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Skinner, Jeff $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 7	Monahan, Sean $6,375,000$6,375,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Thompson, Tage $1,000,000$1,000,000 C UFA - 3
Johansson, Marcus $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Larsson, Johan $2,500,000$2,500,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Kahun, Dominik $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1
Smith, C.J. $700,000$700,000 LW UFA - 1	Lazar, Curtis $800,000$800,000 RW, C UFA - 2	Okposo, Kyle $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 3
	Dea, Jean-Sébastien $700,000$700,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dahlin, Rasmus $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LD/RD UFA - 1	Jokiharju, Henri $925,000$925,000 ($637,500$638K) RD RFA - 1	Ullmark, Linus $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 1
Hanifin, Noah $1,237,500$1,237,500 LD UFA - 4	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,400,000$5,400,000 RD UFA - 2	Hutton, Carter $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 1
McCabe, Jake $2,850,000$2,850,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Miller, Colin $3,875,000$3,875,000 RD UFA - 2
	Borgen, William $864,166$864,166 RD UFA - 1

Aug. 17, 2020 at 10:27 p.m.

flamesfan

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Hahahahahahaha is what the flames say when they see this after their done laughing they block buffalos number. The flames reject this garbage trade so fast it is horrible for Calgary

Aug. 17, 2020 at 10:28 p.m.

Shibbal18

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Quoting: flamesfan

Hahahahahahaha is what the flames say when they see this after their done laughing they block buffalos number. The flames reject this garbage trade so fast it is horrible for Calgary

Sabres easily reject this, this is robbery

Aug. 17, 2020 at 10:29 p.m.

ItWasIn

CGY

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Wow that would be a massive trade

Aug. 17, 2020 at 10:32 p.m.

flamesfan

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Sabres easily reject this, this is robbery

Sabers get an 80 point center, a 100 point left winger and a solid top 4 defensmen for a 60-70 point player, an ok top 4 defensmen and a bunch of maybes. Anyone who this this is good for the flames have never watched a hockey game before and clearly aren’t a hockey fan

Aug. 17, 2020 at 10:41 p.m.

Shibbal18

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Quoting: flamesfan

Gaudreau (2 years left) and Monohan (3 years left) fell off this year, Hanafin = Montour despite you trying to word it in your favor. So Buffalo gives up a 60-70 point RW under RGA control for up to 8 years, a RFA dman thats opposite handed from the one youre trading - thats a wash, then a top 5 prospect in the league currently, one of the best d prospects in the league currently and 8 OA, for 2 years of Gaudreau and 3 years of Monahan playing in a lesser role - so we would see a decline in production, both may be declining and will want way too much to stay. Complete joke for Buffalo

Aug. 17, 2020 at 10:46 p.m.

flamesfan

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Montour is 26 Hanifin is 23 so maybe they are the same skill wise right now Hanifin is 3 years younger. Also there’s a thing called resigning I wouldn’t expect a non hockey fan such as yourself to know what that is but that means when a players contract is over he can get resigned by the same team. Flames are in a win now mode so they wouldn’t do this trade. Learn something about hockey before posting please

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 10:58 p.m.

GenXHockey

Formerly Jamiepo

Joined: Jul. 2018

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Quoting: flamesfan

Quoting: Shibbal18

Quoting: ItWasIn

Wow that would be a massive trade

Let me help solve this... this trade is bad both ways.... not to mention blowing up your roster.

There is a smaller trade that could fit both ways. Would involve montour going to the flames but flames don’t have the pieces (or wouldn’t want to give them up). Would have to be a package of futures for buffalo to flip, or a 3 way.

Aug. 17, 2020 at 10:59 p.m.

Tjm220

Sabres fan

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Quoting: flamesfan

Hanifin may be better than Montour but this trade doesn’t make any sense for Buffalo any more than it does for Calgary. Insulting someone else’s intelligence doesn’t mean you are smarter than they are.

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 11:00 p.m.

BurnEmUp

Yeah Baby

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Sabres take that and run. They actually have a chance to make some noise during Eichel's reign in Buffalo for once.

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 11:30 p.m.

#10

Shibbal18

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Quoting: flamesfan

I addressed resigning. Ill make it easy because reading is hard

Quoting: Shibbal18

for 2 years of Gaudreau and 3 years of Monahan playing in a lesser role - so we would see a decline in production, both may be declining and will want way too much to stay.

Its a terrible deal for Buffalo

Aug. 17, 2020 at 11:35 p.m.

#11

flamesfan

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Quoting: Tjm220

Prove that is doesn’t make me smarter. I’ll bet you can’t

Aug. 18, 2020 at 1:47 a.m.

#12

Tjm220

Sabres fan

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Quoting: flamesfan

Prove that is doesn’t make me smarter. I’ll bet you can’t

Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

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Aug. 18, 2020 at 7:12 a.m.

#13

SabresSuck9

Joined: Jul. 2020

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Any trade that involves Cozens is a joke. We haven't even seen him play in a Buffalo uniform. Hes been rated the top prospect in all of hockey I believe when they did their end of the year rankings. I would not give up on that, i dont care who it would bring in. Hes cost controlled for so many years and lets watch him turn into that Mark Schieffle type of player.

Aug. 18, 2020 at 9:53 a.m.

#14

royle9

look good play good

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Classic case of overvaluing "maybes and picks" once again by Buffalo fans.
Buffalo would be STUPID to not take this and run.

CGY would be STUPID to do this and roll the dice on the unknowns + Sam.
Trade is so far from realistic its brought out the best in everyone here lmao.

Aug. 18, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.

#15

flamesfan

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Quoting: Tjm220

Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

You didn’t prove anything you just said some stupid quote.

Aug. 18, 2020 at 11:14 a.m.

#16

Tjm220

Sabres fan

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Quoting: flamesfan

You didn’t prove anything you just said some stupid quote.

I believe you have already proven my point. Calling everyone else an idiot does not prove you are smart at all.

Aug. 18, 2020 at 11:17 a.m.

#17

flamesfan

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Quoting: Tjm220

I believe you have already proven my point. Calling everyone else an idiot does not prove you are smart at all.

How does that prove anything?

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