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Signing Taylor Hall and trading for Marner - Super offensive team

Created by: Willian_Cardoso
Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 22, 2020
Published: Aug. 22, 2020
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What about 2 super offensive lines in an already stunning scoring team??? If you guys think about my scenario, you'll see that it's not an impossible one (improbable, but not impossible). I know someone will tell me that I should improve the D a bit, but how can any team stop an offensive team like that in a 7 games playoffs series!? I'm not a Colorado fan, but it'd be amazing to see this happening. Be my guest to criticize, if you can...Lol
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
2$975,000
2$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$6,000,000
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Marner, Mitchell
TOR
  1. Burakovsky, André [RFA Rights]
  2. Zadorov, Nikita [RFA Rights]
  3. 2021 1st round pick (COL)
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2020 Conditional 3rd (Tor): If Colorado wins the cup.
2.
COL
  1. 2020 4th round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Calvert, Matt
  2. Nichushkin, Valeri [RFA Rights]
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$80,194,428$0$2,925,000$1,305,572

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Landeskog, Gabriel
$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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MacKinnon, Nathan
$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Rantanen, Mikko
$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
Hall, Taylor
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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Jost, Tyson
$975,000$975,000
C
UFA - 1
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Compher, J.T.
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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Donskoi, Joonas
$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Kamenev, Vladislav
$800,000$800,000
C
RFA
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Kaut, Martin
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Girard, Samuel
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
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Makar, Cale
$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 1
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Grubauer, Philipp
$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
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Graves, Ryan
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
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Johnson, Erik
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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Francouz, Pavel
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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Cole, Ian
$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Timmins, Conor
$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Lindholm, Anton
$742,500$742,500
LD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 22, 2020 at 8:43 p.m.
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I can't see Toronto taking that deal also how are you planning on paying Makar and Landeskog
Aug. 22, 2020 at 8:43 p.m.
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Hall definitely gets more
Aug. 22, 2020 at 8:45 p.m.
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Toronto says nope
Aug. 22, 2020 at 8:45 p.m.
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Hall will get 2-3 more aav. You also then don’t have room to resign Mack/Landy/Makar in a year or two
Aug. 22, 2020 at 8:46 p.m.
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Leafs fans aren’t going to like that trade one bit
Aug. 22, 2020 at 8:47 p.m.
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if you want marner give us kadri back with zad and timmins and 1st
Aug. 22, 2020 at 8:52 p.m.
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Quoting: TheAlien
I can't see Toronto taking that deal also how are you planning on paying Makar and Landeskog


Toronto MUST get some cap relief and they would add a very good winger and a solid top 4/ top6 D plus a 1st rd pick and a conditional 3rd. That's a very good price to Marner to me. As for Makar and Landeskog, I don't think Landeskog is a no-brainer at their roster. If Hall plays his better they could let Landeskog go and sign just Makar.
Aug. 22, 2020 at 8:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafs_fan13
if you want marner give us kadri back with zad and timmins and 1st


That's something arguable. I don't think my trade is a bad one. I've seen a lot of worse trades than mine, even made by your team. Lol
Aug. 22, 2020 at 8:57 p.m.
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Hell no. Would you trade Rantanen for that? Bet you wouldn't
Aug. 22, 2020 at 8:57 p.m.
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Hall will get 2-3 more aav. You also then don’t have room to resign Mack/Landy/Makar in a year or two


You probably be right about Hall, cause he had a not so good season. As for Landeskog, as I just said, if Hall plays really well for them, Colorado could let him go. Mack still has 3 years left in his contract. That's a lot.
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:00 p.m.
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Hell no. Would you trade Rantanen for that? Bet you wouldn't


What about add Timmins? As I just said, I won't be shocked seen my trade being accepted. Most GMs already did worse moves than this one. Lol
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Willian_Cardoso
What about add Timmins? As I just said, I won't be shocked seen my trade being accepted. Most GMs already did worse moves than this one. Lol


no the leafs need a current top pair RHD for Marner, not a potential one. Or at least a current top 4 with upside + mid to high first rounder + forward replacement.

Maybe for arguments sake, if Girard shot right, it'd be Girard + Burakovsky + 1st for Marner
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Willian_Cardoso
That's something arguable. I don't think my trade is a bad one. I've seen a lot of worse trades than mine, even made by your team. Lol

he’s a 23 year old winger who can play out 90+ points, who can play the penalty kill, he had a tough year cuz of the coaching change and then something came out that happened in his rookie year then he got injured for 5 weeks. he’s a great young player and that package you made for him is horrible
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:06 p.m.
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no the leafs need a current top pair RHD for Marner, not a potential one. Or at least a current top 4 with upside +++


But you guys would still adding a potential one PLUS a top 4/top6 one in Zadorov. I like Zadorov. He's pretty solid and physical. Besides, Burakovski is having a very good season showing he's capable to be a top 6 winger. And you guys would still getting a 1st AND a conditional 3rd. Thats's A LOT!
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:10 p.m.
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he’s a 23 year old winger who can play out 90+ points, who can play the penalty kill, he had a tough year cuz of the coaching change and then something came out that happened in his rookie year then he got injured for 5 weeks. he’s a great young player and that package you made for him is horrible


I think you're overreacting. If I added Timmins (a potential top 4 D), I think it'd be a fair offer, cause I offered a top 6 winger, plus a top4/top6 D, plus a 1st AND a conditional 3rd. That's a lot to me and there's not much better offers to Toronto gets to trade Marner.
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:11 p.m.
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I think you're overreacting. If I added Timmins (a potential top 4 D), I think it'd be a fair offer, cause I offered a top 6 winger, plus a top4/top6 D, plus a 1st AND a conditional 3rd. That's a lot to me and there's not much better offers to Toronto gets to trade Marner.


a team like nashville would be interested in him
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:13 p.m.
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But you guys would still adding a potential one PLUS a top 4/top6 one in Zadorov. I like Zadorov. He's pretty solid and physical. Besides, Burakovski is having a very good season showing he's capable to be a top 6 winger. And you guys would still getting a 1st AND a conditional 3rd. Thats's A LOT!


Its a lot, sure, but not a lot for a 23 year old with a 94 point season (and scored at pretty much the same pace this year), plays on the PK, etc. There would be better offers if a player like Marner went on the market though. Not a slight on the players coming back, but I think TOR could do a lot better, and should probably hold onto him rather than accept this.
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:15 p.m.
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a team like nashville would be interested in him


And which one do you expect to get for him? Ellis? Ekholm? Cause Josi is out of the table.
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:18 p.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
Its a lot, sure, but not a lot for a 23 year old with a 94 point season (and scored at pretty much the same pace this year), plays on the PK, etc. There would be better offers if a player like Marner went on the market though. Not a slight on the players coming back, but I think TOR could do a lot better, and should probably hold onto him rather than accept this.


I'm not sure about better offers, cause there won't be a raise on the cap and most of the teams won't have much cap space to afford almost 11M/season contract. Those which have are rebuilders and teams like that are unlikely to pay that much to get a player. Even Marner.
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:18 p.m.
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And which one do you expect to get for him? Ellis? Ekholm? Cause Josi is out of the table.


ellis yea and he’s a top 2 dman that would be a lot better then this offer.
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:20 p.m.
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I'm not sure about better offers, cause there won't be a raise on the cap and most of the teams won't have much cap space to afford almost 11M/season contract. Those which have are rebuilders and teams like that are unlikely to pay that much to get a player. Even Marner.


if there aren't then you keep him until a better offer presents itself. Leafs don't NEED to trade Marner, I personally think they should hold onto the core for at least one more year unless an unresistable deal or free agent (pietrangelo) comes along
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:21 p.m.
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ellis yea and he’s a top 2 dman that would be a lot better then this offer.


Tell me what exactly do you think it'd be a trade offer by Nashville, then. Ellis plus...?
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:24 p.m.
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if there aren't then you keep him until a better offer presents itself. Leafs don't NEED to trade Marner, I personally think they should hold onto the core for at least one more year unless an unresistable deal or free agent (pietrangelo) comes along


I think you guys would be in trouble in D in this case. Almost no cap space to get solid d-men and Toronto needs RHS d-men badly.
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:27 p.m.
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Tell me what exactly do you think it'd be a trade offer by Nashville, then. Ellis plus...?


ellis and watson
Aug. 22, 2020 at 9:33 p.m.
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ellis and watson


That's it? No pick? Wow! I was expecting more...Lol

Ellis already has 29 and Watson is a solid bottom 6 winger. I'd add a 1st or at least a 2nd rd pick in your trade.
 
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