Hellllll nah

Ducks accept

Lol.....

Idk about that. None of those pieces will have the future impact that Lindholm has now. Have to get a top prospect and a high pick for Lindholm. ADA was far and away the worst player in the play in round. Strome is a middle 6 C. And I’ll admit not knowing much about Havel but his numbers look like he’s just like Larsson or Guhle, young Dmen that haven’t fully taken the next step. Seems a lot like quantity over quality. Right now the ducks have plenty of quantity. They need quality.

I'm no ADA fan but you can't base a player's ability off of three games. He's a top four RHD and you could use one of those.

He’s not a top 4. 58% ozone starts and 48% corsi. That’s not good. Also when you’re as bad as he was in those 3 games there’s a problem. CAR took advantage of him. Top 4 D shouldn’t be taken advantage of.

48% isn't great but let's not pretend Lindholm with his 50.7% is some Corsi god over here.

I just watched Vancouver take advantage of Pietrangelo and Parayko for six games, does that mean they also aren't top four defenseman? No, they just means they had a bad few games. Look at their season as a whole. DeAngelo's season showed he was an incredible offensive talent and perhaps a meh defensive talent (the results weren't there but his expected goals against were ok). That's why he got a ton of ozone starts. Lindholm, comparatively is a pretty good defensive talent and kind of a liability in the opposing end. DeAngelo was worth over ten goals above replacement while Lindholm was worth just over five. For a team that has trouble scoring, that's a good deal for the ducks, it addresses exactly what they need. Plus you get other stuff out of that trade. Like a first round pick.

I pointed out the zone starts for a reason. When you start nearly 60% of your shifts in the ozone you should not have a negative corsi. ADA’s 3 year point share comparison had him close to Jordie Benn and Erick Brewer. Yikes.

And ADA does not address what the ducks need. People like to think the ducks need RD when in reality they don’t. They need high end talent preferably up front. Sure like any team they could use a high end Dman but it’s not the biggest need.

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Why not? He's a proven top 4 LD and we need those badly. ADA is the next Stepan - once he loses his offensive touch he will basically be useless (can't play defense). Strome is dead weight and I don't want to give him a long term contract. Hajek will probably only ever be a bottom pair guy at best. And the first round pick isn't top 10. If Anaheim accepted this, we'd be in luck. As it is, I don't think the quality is quite there as far as what the Rangers are offering.

It's not that your biggest need is a RHD (although interesting take that they don't need one), it's that you need offense from literally anywhere and DeAngelo does that. His point shares the last three years were 0, 4.9, and 8.4. Lindholm's were 7.2, 5.5, 3.0. One player has been declining, one is breaking out. If you include years where DeAngelo wasn't even a full time NHL'r (like three years ago) then of course his point shares are going to suck. But that doesn't mean he sucks now. He is high end talent. And again, you get more out of that trade- a first round pick and a player you can immediately plug into your top nine- good assets to use for the talent you need up front. Or you could trade DeAngelo again. All for a defenseman whose performance has steadily been getting worse. Even if it doesn't directly address your needs (which again, I think it does), that's great asset management. It's a steal for the Ducks.

And again, far be it for me to defend ADA on anything but like the Ducks clearly get more out of this trade. And you're not contending anyway, so it makes sense to build for the future. Who cares what Lindholm is providing if the Ducks aren't going anywhere while he's going to be here?

None of the pieces in the trade are of the quality the ducks need. ADA has huge flaws. Strome isn’t a 2C hence why ranger fans wanna get rid of him. Hajek looks to be just another LD in the same as Guhle and Larsson. The 1st is 23rd. Like I said has to be a top prospect and high pick.

Alright, well, good luck with that I guess.

All that for just Lindholm? And I really like Hampus, but no way all that.

ADA is not as good as his inflated stats this past season suggest - he's not nearly as good as he should be on defense. Likewise for Strome. And Hajek is far inferior to Lindholm in the same capacity. Really only giving up that first round pick.