Domi Tatar and Poehling for Gaudreau

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Created by: gm_jeanguy

Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 24, 2020

Published: Aug. 24, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

The rumour is that Gaudreau would be on the market, and that Domi, Poehling and 16OA would be an acceptable package. What if that mid 1st was replaced with Tatar, who's worth a late 1st and a 3rd? That way, MTL would have the cap space to resign Petry, Gallagher and Danault next summer. CGY fans, does that make any sort of sense to you?

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Evans, Jake	2	$1,000,000
Juulsen, Noah	2	$1,000,000
Mete, Victor	2	$1,500,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Thompson, Nate		2	$1,000,000
Talbot, Cam		2	$2,500,000

Trades

MTL

Gaudreau, Johnny

CGY

Buried

Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$70,047,976	$0	$3,137,500	$11,452,024

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $2,600,000$2,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Gaudreau, Johnny $6,750,000$6,750,000 LW UFA - 2	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 1
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Danault, Phillip $3,083,333$3,083,333 C UFA - 1	Lehkonen, Artturi $2,400,000$2,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Dauphin, Laurent $700,000$700,000 C UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $1,000,000$1,000,000 C UFA - 2	Weal, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 6	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 6
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 2	Juulsen, Noah $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD UFA - 1	Talbot, Cam $2,500,000$2,500,000 G UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Thompson, Nate $1,000,000$1,000,000 C UFA - 1
Belzile, Alex $700,000$700,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Mete, Victor $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Aug. 24, 2020 at 11:29 p.m.

habsfan00

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WAYYYYYYY too much

Aug. 24, 2020 at 11:30 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Nope, it's actually just some idiot who made a post on twitter looking for attention. That's not enough for Gaudreau. Best part is you ahve him on your 2nd line as if he's not instantly the best forward on your team.

Aug. 24, 2020 at 11:33 p.m.

gm_jeanguy

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Sure, but I'm more interested about value here. What would you consider fair value?

Aug. 24, 2020 at 11:36 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: gm_jeanguy

Sure, but I'm more interested about value here. What would you consider fair value?

Probably something around Kotki + or Suzuki +

Aug. 24, 2020 at 11:55 p.m.

gm_jeanguy

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Probably something around Kotki + or Suzuki +

Yeah, I don't think that could fly. They're both under 21 and under team control for 6-7 years, while Gaudreau may have already peaked and is UFA next year.

Aug. 25, 2020 at 12:00 a.m.

Campabee

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Probably something around Kotki + or Suzuki +

Everything always starts with KK, Suzuki, Romanov or Caufield! Give it up already a star player near the end of his prime with 2 years of team control is NEVER going to be worth 1-3 top RFA's/Prospects under team control for 6-7 years especially when there is a flat cap unless that star player is Crosby or Ovechkin.

Aug. 25, 2020 at 12:31 a.m.

MTLaveragefan

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Probably something around Kotki + or Suzuki +

Lol, go fish

Aug. 25, 2020 at 12:34 a.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: gm_jeanguy

Yeah, I don't think that could fly. They're both under 21 and under team control for 6-7 years, while Gaudreau may have already peaked and is UFA next year.

Hes not a UFA next year for starters and no he is 27 he has not peaked. his game style is very similar to Kane he will be good well into his 30's

Aug. 25, 2020 at 12:34 a.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Lol, go fish

Thats fine, no deal then, we'll keep our actual star player

Aug. 25, 2020 at 12:35 a.m.

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: Campabee

End of his prime? he's literally in the middle of it

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Aug. 25, 2020 at 12:46 a.m.

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Campabee

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

End of his prime? he's literally in the middle of it

Yes end as in like 3 years max left of his prime. He is 27. Prime years are 22-30 for forwards. Therefore he is on the backend of his prime.

Aug. 25, 2020 at 12:48 a.m.

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: Campabee

Yes end as in like 3 years max left of his prime. He is 27. Prime years are 22-30 for forwards. Therefore he is on the backend of his prime.

For most forwards yes because thats when their foot speed starts slowing down. Gaudreau has never relied on his foot speed. Look at Patrick Kane for reference

Aug. 25, 2020 at 12:56 a.m.

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Campabee

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

For most forwards yes because thats when their foot speed starts slowing down. Gaudreau has never relied on his foot speed. Look at Patrick Kane for reference

Kane plays a much different style of game than Gaudreau plus is much smaller. Comparing Gaudreau to Kane is like comparing Peter Forsberg to Mitch Marner! Gaudreau plays more like Marner than Kane. Also Kane now is not the same as Kane in his mid 20's therefore Gaudreau at 32 will not be the same player as he is at 27 time slows everyone down including Jonny.

Aug. 25, 2020 at 1:15 a.m.

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MTLaveragefan

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Quoting: Campabee

Also... he is UFA in two years... and he is not staying lol

Aug. 25, 2020 at 1:42 a.m.

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: Campabee

There is a reason Kane or Gaudreau wins the stick handling competition every year,maybe Marner should enter it? They are very similar players because of their ability to slow down the game. Also who are you saying is much smaller? Gaudreau is 4cm shorter, that's not a lot.

Aug. 25, 2020 at 1:43 a.m.

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: MTLaveragefan

Also... he is UFA in two years... and he is not staying lol

He won't stay in Montreal but there is a good chance he stays in Calgary

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