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Three 3-Ways

Created by: Tonys_Pizza
Team: 2020-21 Nashville Predators
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 28, 2020
Published: Aug. 28, 2020
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3$925,000
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  1. Nylander, William
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (NSH)
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  1. Gaudreau, Johnny
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
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NSH
  1. Larsson, Adam
  2. Yamamoto, Kailer
  3. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
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NSH
  1. Huberdeau, Jonathan
  2. 2020 4th round pick (FLA)
FLA
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NSH
FLA
  1. Yamamoto, Kailer
  2. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
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NSH
FLA
  1. Huberdeau, Jonathan
  2. Sissons, Colton
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
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22$81,500,000$67,203,166$0$1,250,000$14,296,834
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UFA - 2
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C, LW
UFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
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UFA - 6
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$894,167$894,167
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 8
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UFA - 3
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M-NTC, NMC
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UFA - 2
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UFA - 1
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LD
UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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Aug. 28, 2020 at 6:47 p.m.
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Ok lets clear up what you have here
To Toronto
- Ellis
- watson

To Nashville
- #5 over all in 2020 (OTT pick)

To Ottawa
- Nylander
- NSH 2020 3rd

Ottawa get's absolutely fleeced here, Ellis > Nylander.

To New Jersey
- Gaudreau

To Nashville
- Severson
- EDM's 3rd (2020 or 2021 based on condition, from Calgary)

To Calgary
- Tolvanen
- Wood

This trade is absolutely horrid for Calgary, and also quite bad for Nashville

Third trade doesn't even make sense since you traded Huberdeau back to Florida
Aug. 28, 2020 at 7:09 p.m.
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I'm not sure you understand exactly how 3-way trades work. Either that or your player evaluations are extremely bad.
Aug. 28, 2020 at 7:44 p.m.
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I think I would rather just draft Raymond @ 5OA
Aug. 28, 2020 at 11:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Ok lets clear up what you have here
To Toronto
- Ellis
- watson

To Nashville
- #5 over all in 2020 (OTT pick)

To Ottawa
- Nylander
- NSH 2020 3rd

Ottawa get's absolutely fleeced here, Ellis > Nylander.

To New Jersey
- Gaudreau

To Nashville
- Severson
- EDM's 3rd (2020 or 2021 based on condition, from Calgary)

To Calgary
- Tolvanen
- Wood

This trade is absolutely horrid for Calgary, and also quite bad for Nashville

Third trade doesn't even make sense since you traded Huberdeau back to Florida


So... this isn’t an exact science.

TOR-OTT-NAH
TOR: Gets high caliber RH defender and a Kyle Clifford replacement.

OTT: Gets high skill forward. Could probably demand a 3rd from TOR but I don’t want to get too cheeky.

NSH: Gets of of a long term deal with Ellis while getting cap space and youth.

3 way #2 | NJ-CGY-NSH
NJ: Gets hometown boy and high skill to support two young centers.

CGY: Gets cap space and youth.

NSH: Gets a B level replacement for Ellis

3 way #3 | FLA-EDM-NSH

EDM: (THIS IS WHERE I MADE AN ERROR)
EDM get Hubey and Sissons. They desire wingers. Hubey is a easy fit with Conner. Sissons is an easy fit on a 2nd or 3rd line. He will be Leon’s or RNH’s Kunitz.

NSH: Gets B level replacement on the right side for Ellis. ( He mentors Farence, Ekholm mentors Fabbro, Josi gets Severson)

FLA: Gets affordable talent and saves money.

...

Threw pasta at the wall knew most noodles wouldn’t stick... really just looking for what the reaction would be. These trades all took me a lot of time and I cross referenced with the Trade machine tool to see if they would work for all sides. I understand they are not practical for every party for these 3 ways... just wanted to get the feedback on extreme ideas.
Aug. 28, 2020 at 11:18 p.m.
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Tonys Pizza
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I think I would rather just draft Raymond @ 5OA


Sure. Not a scout. Just figured if I was in the situation to have the 5th and 11th and a right handed defender that is projected in the top 10 is available and I know I could get a top tier forward at 11, that right handed defender would be tempting. Not saying it will happen. I have not watched any of these prospects play. Just looking at spreadsheets.. aka sure draft Lucas.
Aug. 28, 2020 at 11:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
I'm not sure you understand exactly how 3-way trades work. Either that or your player evaluations are extremely bad.


3 teams are involved and players and assets are exchanged amongst them... did I miss anything. (Note I admit my error on the third trade where I meant to sent the last deal back to EDM)
Aug. 29, 2020 at 2:14 a.m.
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Quoting: Tonys_Pizza
3 teams are involved and players and assets are exchanged amongst them... did I miss anything. (Note I admit my error on the third trade where I meant to sent the last deal back to EDM)

Ottawa isn’t gonna give up the #5 overall pick at all, let alone in a deal to help Toronto get a #1 RHD. Tolvanen+Wood is not even close to good enough value for Gaudreau. In a 3-way trade the net value in and out for each team has to be approximately equal. Gaudreau is worth far more than a prospect who can’t break into the lineup of an offensively inept team, and a middle six winger. A future stud 1RW or 1RD at #5 is worth more to Ottawa than a top 6 winger making 7mil rn. Also Nashville is losing Ellis, Watson, and a 3rd while only gaining one asset (I doubt they’d trade all that for #5, they think they’re good, and like I said Ottawa would prefer to keep it anyway) and the Leafs gain Ellis and Watson while only losing Nylander, even though Ellis alone is worth more than Nylander? Somehow instead of charging the Leafs through the teeth for an obvious need this gave them a steal
 
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