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Chychrun

Created by: Shakabakes
Team: 2020-21 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 31, 2020
Published: Aug. 31, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,500,000
2$800,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
LaFreniere, Alexis
3$925,000
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Strome, Ryan [RFA Rights]
2.
ARI
  1. Deangelo, Anthony [RFA Rights]
  2. Georgiev, Alexandar [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 1st round pick (CAR)
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
I think Kuemper gets moved. Georgiev is a younger, cost controlled Goaltender.

DeAngelo is still young asset they are familiar with that they could later flip for other pieces.
3.
NYR
  1. 2020 6th round pick (STL)
OTT
  1. Smith, Brendan
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (NYR)
  3. 2021 4th round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$72,766,466$0$8,362,500$8,733,534
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$11,642,857$11,642,857
LW
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UFA - 6
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
RW
RFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
LaFreniere, Alexis
$925,000$925,000
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
LD
RFA - 3
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$833,333$833,333
LD
UFA - 1
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$5,700,000$5,700,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1

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Aug. 31, 2020 at 9:21 p.m.
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Move Kuemper for assets, get Georgiev in his place.

DeAngelo flipped for assets down the line.

Could get $3-4M in Cap space if you Bridge DeAngelo.

Both Picks in the Top 40.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 9:22 p.m.
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Arizona needs to move a goalie they probably don't want georgiev. Even if they move kemper they go with raanta and hill. They'd be crazy to move kemper he dragged that team along all season.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 9:22 p.m.
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How exactly is Stepan an upgrade over Strome?
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Aug. 31, 2020 at 9:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
Arizona needs to move a goalie they probably don't want georgiev. Even if they move kemper they go with raanta and hill. They'd be crazy to move kemper he dragged that team along all season.


rn friedman posted a rumor where hes heard Kuemper+Demers (retention) could be coming to Toronto For the 2020 1st and 2 prospects (i assume SDA and Liligren).
Aug. 31, 2020 at 9:27 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
rn friedman posted a rumor where hes heard Kuemper+Demers (retention) could be coming to Toronto For the 2020 1st and 2 prospects (i assume SDA and Liligren).


Yeah his names been out there but it would make no sense to now trade for a goalie.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 9:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Jesus
How exactly is Stepan an upgrade over Strome?


All anyone talks about is how Strome is a bum who got lifted up by Panarin. Stepan could benefit the same with Panarin, or any of the other talent around him that he is already familiar with.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 9:53 p.m.
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Considering Kapanen cost the pens a FRP the Rangers could definitely get one for strome
Aug. 31, 2020 at 9:59 p.m.
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Considering Kapanen cost the pens a FRP the Rangers could definitely get one for strome


Possible. Just not from Buffalo. Late Round 1st.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 10:08 p.m.
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ooof very quick Ranger decline.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 10:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Sagecoll
ooof very quick Ranger decline.


Deangelo > Chychrun, so once you start adding pieces it becomes pretty laughable since Stepan is a cap dump.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 10:22 p.m.
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ooof very quick Ranger decline.


Let me guess: Chychrun and a 1st for Lias and Brendan Smith?

If anything, this trade isn't enough for the Yotes to give up Chychrun. Not vice versa.

I would like the Rangers to come up on top for every trade they pull off, just as much as other Ranger fans. But you overvalue every single trade I ever see you post on.

Even if it's a decent trade, 99.2% of your responses are either "Quick Decline", or to add some extra ridiculous piece to unrealistically sway the trade in the Rangers favor.

Even i know this trade probably wouldn't happen. But considering the sweetheart Contract that Chychrun has, it would take a massive overpay to pry him out of Arizona. Considering the proposal doesn't include Kakko, Fox, 1st OA, K'Andre, Lundkvist or Kravtsov...I don't think it's the Rangers who would be declining.
Aug. 31, 2020 at 10:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Shakabakes
Let me guess: Chychrun and a 1st for Lias and Brendan Smith?

If anything, this trade isn't enough for the Yotes to give up Chychrun. Not vice versa.

I would like the Rangers to come up on top for every trade they pull off, just as much as other Ranger fans. But you overvalue every single trade I ever see you post on.

Even if it's a decent trade, 99.2% of your responses are either "Quick Decline", or to add some extra ridiculous piece to unrealistically sway the trade in the Rangers favor.

Even i know this trade probably wouldn't happen. But considering the sweetheart Contract that Chychrun has, it would take a massive overpay to pry him out of Arizona. Considering the proposal doesn't include Kakko, Fox, 1st OA, K'Andre, Lundkvist or Kravtsov...I don't think it's the Rangers who would be declining.


Well I apologize if you don't like the tone.

I'm just using the on-ice values to make informed decisions and evaluations.

For example when I said Deangelo>Chychrun, it wasn't just an opinion, it was the data:

chychrun-denagelo
deangelo-chychrun

I'm not really using whatever consensus values people try and come up with here as my basis because frankly they're often wrong, and poorly informed. I'm using the data and controlling for factors such as linemates, defensive scheme, usage and fluky things like PDO/Sh%.

If that feels wildly different than the valuations on here, it's probably because a player is much more or much less valuable in real life on the ice than they are among this forum.
 
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