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Cap Dump Trades

Created by: rhfa61
Team: 2020-21 Los Angeles Kings
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 7, 2020
Published: Sep. 7, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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With the LAK having cap space & able to adsorb some cap dumps, curious if they use it to acquire more picks. Thoughts on fairness from STL & VAN fans?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$850,000
3$3,000,000
Trades
1.
LAK
  1. Bozak, Tyler
  2. 2020 1st round pick (STL)
STL
  1. Amadio, Michael
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (CBJ)
2.
LAK
  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. 2021 1st round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Moore, Trevor
  2. 2021 4th round pick (CGY)
Buyouts
Termination Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the STL
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
2021
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the STL
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
2022
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the LAK
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$72,863,030$0$2,840,000$8,636,970
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$2,425,000$2,425,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$725,000$725,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$2,636,364$2,636,364
RW, C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$725,000$725,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$747,500$747,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
C, LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$1,133,333$1,133,333
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$850,000$850,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$894,167$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$11,000,000$11,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$2,900,000$2,900,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$858,333$858,333
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$761,666$761,666 (Performance Bonus$107,500$108K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 2

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Sep. 7, 2020 at 2:10 p.m.
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Bozak isn't negative value. that trade wouldn't happen.
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Sep. 7, 2020 at 2:13 p.m.
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The Kings aren't going to mitigate a Loui Eriksson cap dump. The 1st is enough compensation for Eriksson, but they're not going to send back Moore and a 4th. They might send a project prospect like Luff or Brickley.

Is Bozak a cap dump? I didn't follow him much this season. He was a good player during last year's cup run. If the Blues are willing to pay a 1st to dump him, I'm sure the Kings would jump at it. I just don't see why the Blues would do that.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 2:18 p.m.
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Substitute Blake Lizotte for Amadio and I can see both teams doing that.

I can't see Los Angeles helping a divisional rival with a cap dump.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 4:38 p.m.
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Substitute Blake Lizotte for Amadio and I can see both teams doing that.



Eh? The Blues are not paying anyone to take Bozak, let alone a 2020 1st. And adding Lizotte, whom they have no need for, ain't close to changing that.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 4:52 p.m.
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Eh? The Blues are not paying anyone to take Bozak, let alone a 2020 1st. And adding Lizotte, whom they have no need for, ain't close to changing that.


Whether St Louis would pay to move Bozak is one question, and I tend to agree with you that they probably won't have to. Whether St Louis would like to exchange #3Cs, pick up $4 million in cap space and acquire a younger player they might have team control over for several more years in doing so is another. Bozak for Lizotte straight up has some appeal for the Blues.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:28 p.m.
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Whether St Louis would like to exchange #3Cs, pick up $4 million in cap space and acquire a younger player they might have team control over for several more years in doing so is another. Bozak for Lizotte straight up has some appeal for the Blues.



Yeah, except that's not what we're talking about here. You somehow forgot that 2020 1st in this proposal. Nobody said anything about Bozak for Lizotte 1-for-1 until you did just now.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:35 p.m.
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Yeah, except that's not what we're talking about here. You somehow forgot that 2020 1st in this proposal. Nobody said anything about Bozak for Lizotte 1-for-1 until you did just now.


I didn't forget anything. I was responding to your statement that the Blues "have no need for" Lizotte, which is an overstatement at the least.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:47 p.m.
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I didn't forget anything. I was responding to your statement that the Blues "have no need for" Lizotte, which is an overstatement at the least.



You said "Substitute Blake Lizotte for Amadio and I can see both teams doing that." The "that" you refer to includes the 1st.

And yes, we are flush with centers, both in the team now and in the prospect pool, and aren't exactly eager to add a teeny tiny one with moderate skill bearing this sort of price tag. That's hardly a controversial take.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:53 p.m.
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You said "Substitute Blake Lizotte for Amadio and I can see both teams doing that." The "that" you refer to includes the 1st.

And yes, we are flush with centers, both in the team now and in the prospect pool, and aren't exactly eager to add a teeny tiny one with moderate skill bearing this sort of price tag. That's hardly a controversial take.


I give up. It's like pointing is to a dog -- the dog just looks at your hand, not what you're pointing at.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 5:55 p.m.
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I give up. It's like pointing is to a dog -- the dog just looks at your hand, not what you're pointing at.



What are you on about? Those are your exact words, dude. I'm the guy pointing here.
Sep. 7, 2020 at 9:34 p.m.
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Nothing against Bozak, but STL needs to dump salary in order to resign their Captain, and then resign their starting goalie next off season. Steen has a NMC, and you’re not trading Schwartz, so please suggest to me where STL shaves off their cap in order to keep Pietrangelo & Bennington??
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Sep. 8, 2020 at 4:26 a.m.
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What are you on about? Those are your exact words, dude. I'm the guy pointing here.


Never mind. I apologize for trying to get you to focus on the ramifications of your statement that St Louis has no use for Lizotte, which inevitably implies that the Blues will retain Bozak, which equally inevitably implies that you won't have enough space to re-sign Pietrangelo, as noted in the immediately preceding comment by the OP, but you seem fixated on that first-round-pick irrelevancy.
Sep. 8, 2020 at 4:28 a.m.
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Nothing against Bozak, but STL needs to dump salary in order to resign their Captain, and then resign their starting goalie next off season. Steen has a NMC, and you’re not trading Schwartz, so please suggest to me where STL shaves off their cap in order to keep Pietrangelo & Bennington??


I think that your comment was a question to mokumboi.
Sep. 8, 2020 at 6:09 a.m.
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I apologize for trying to get you to focus on the ramifications of your statement that St Louis has no use for Lizotte...

which inevitably implies that the Blues will retain Bozak

which equally inevitably implies that you won't have enough space to re-sign Pietrangelo

as noted in the immediately preceding comment by the OP, but you seem fixated on that first-round-pick irrelevancy.



I said "no need" - not the same thing. And pretty accurate. They have centers falling out their butt left and right, which is where half of them end up playing because we have so many centers.

No, it doesn't.

No, it doesn't.

It's not irrelevant at all. Do I need to quote your exact words again? They certainly are highly relevant to my exact response to your exact comment. FFS, this is not even remotely difficult to understand, and yet you want to freak out about it as if I'm playing dumb. Would the Blues perhaps be interested in swapping Bozak for LIzotte 1 for 1? Sure, perhaps they would. But that's not what you originally said, is it? No, it is not. Duh-doy.

Good grief already.




Quoting: rhfa61
Nothing against Bozak, but STL needs to dump salary in order to resign their Captain, and then resign their starting goalie next off season. Steen has a NMC, and you’re not trading Schwartz, so please suggest to me where STL shaves off their cap in order to keep Pietrangelo & Bennington??



Uhh, Bozak. I never said he's not available. In fact, I've repeatedly said he's probably next to go. We're just not going to give someone a 2020 1st to do it. Because that would be stupid and unneccessary, because some other team would blow this offer out of the water, which would obviously be very easy to do. You ask waaaaay too much here. You can grab Bozak for a 3rd, maybe a 4th. Or hell, maybe Lizotte. But asking for a 1st for us to improve your team is a pipe dream.
 
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