That Nashville trade is the worst trade ever! An AHL caliber goalie, a depth d man and a 3rd line F for one of the better goalies in the league...oh and a pick. Lmfao

Rinne is one of the better goalies in the league? nope

Get real that's a garbage offer for Rinne, Stafford+Stuart+Pavelec and why would Poile do this it makes Nashville worse.

Read the description. I didn't propose the original trade. I was just seeing with the effects would be for Winnipeg. Go piss and moan on the original poster's page.

True North: Then don't post it. Rinne ain't waiving his NMC for Winnipeg, and the Jets aren't trading Hellebuyck.

Exactly...why do the other side of an awful trade?

So over the last 2 seasons Pav and Rinne have been very similar. Pav .914 sv%, Rinne .915sv%. But here is the big difference, most goals in the NHL are scored from what they call the high danger scoring area. So now lets look at that... Pav .818sv%, Rinne .765sv%. Rinne is regressing fast. Thats a bad deal for the jets and a bad contract for the preds to have.

In the last 3 seasons Rinne is ranked 37th in sv% in the NHL for goalies with at least 3000mins played. He also plays on statistical the best defensive team in the NHL over that period of time. So I'm asking how he Rinne one of the better goalies in the NHL? I can't see it. Plus he gets paid 7mil.

do people not realize that Rinne has been really bad the past 2 seasons

You realize that danger scoring shots are more to do with the goalie itself rather than team right? A goalies style of play, positioning, etc. affects it severely. Highlight reel saves severely inflate adjusted high danger save percentage. Rinne yes has been a bad goalie when it comes to making clutch saves the last two seasons, however Rinne has been a fantastic puck control, rebound control (WCH was different though), and puck freezing goalie. Pavelec is one of the worst in the league and constantly out of position, so naturally he'll face significantly more high danger shots, which inflates his stats. Rinne is far better than Pavelec, however his contract is bad, and Rinne isn't an elite goalie anymore, just a mid tier one (I'll consider him top 10 if he posts at least a 92.00 save percentage and continues his excellent style of play). Also to make my point clear, look at teams like Chicago and St. Louis and how little danger shots they allow, but yet Crawford and Elliott face significantly more than team average, because of their style of play, whereas Rinne faces less danger shots on average than Nashville's other goalies. Danger shots are more goalie dependent than team dependent.

First off all even in statistics, Tampa and Anaheim are better than Nashville. Granted I see Nashville as a top 6 defensive team, stats are severely overrated for Nashville. The reason why Nashville seems like the best team defensively is because both goalies have great positioning, puck control, rebound control, and shot control. Danger shots are more goalie dependent than team dependent. The only exceptions are Lundqvist and Dubnyk. Lundqvist has fantastic puck control and faced the most high danger shots in the league. Dubnyk has terrible and he faced very little per game, meaning it's almost entirely the team in play. Nashville, Chicago, St. Louis, Winnipeg, Calgary, etc. are teams that rely on their goalies style of play for their statistics, which is why despite the fact that Chicago and St. Louis are clearly better than the other teams mentioned, they allow more high danger shots due to these factors:

1. Goalies play a poor style.
2. Naturally a team especially goalie doing well faces significantly more shots than if they played poorly (Look at Edmonton in 2012-2013, 2014-2015, and 2015-2016, despite the fact that the Oilers D both on paper and in play was the worst in 2014-2015, they faced less shots on average than the other years, because their goalies were horrible, whereas both goalies played near elite in the lockout, and Talbot played elite after a poor start).