Yeah id do that. Very fair trade to LA. I'd rather have Simon over Kovalchuk tho from a work ethic standpoint.

so you pay a 2nd to save the money to get Bobby Ryan, and you then put Kapanen on the 4th line after paying a first AND a prospect?

So you're trading a 2nd rounder for 1.5M of cap relief, and a 1st and a prospect for a guy on your fourth line?

That asset management is worse than anything Rutherford could dream of

You tell em Rick!

Idiot. I just didn't rearrange after I signed players. You're not bright.

Of course King Idiot chimes in.

What’s the point of the Lafferty trade? Isn’t the point supposed to be getting younger and faster? Why trade and pay more for older guys that aren’t going to play defense or score when Lafferty will come at 900k at most lol

I'd much rather keep Lafferty, but the acquisition of Scevior makes that difficult.

I'm an idiot because I would pay one of my few draft picks left to save 1.5M a year? Throw the ENTIRE future away while you're at it, will ya?

Again, you're not bright. It's all good. You'll get it one day.

But yet you just paid 2.75 million for Ryan and Kovalchuk. So it’s not that difficult. Would rather have Lafferty than those 2 lol

Ryan and Kovy are still 40ish point players. Lafferty is not close to that. The third line needs offense.

“We want to get faster and younger” Adds Ryan, Kovalchuk, AND Byfuglien. Wow. This isn’t 2008 anymore friend.

Kovy hasn’t put up 40 points in the nhl in almost a decade. Ryan has had 1 in the past 4 years. It’s not worth paying either more than league minimum. And it’s not worth it for the pens at all who are trying to get younger and faster. If GMJR wanted a 40ish point player over youth and speed, he’d have just kept Hornqvist.

Didn’t even notice Buff lol. I was too dumbfounded about the Ryan and kovy signings with the Lafferty trade lol

Love lafferty to buf , we would give more

The Buff move is a cheap low risk/high reward signing since the Pens don't have any RD depth passed Ruhwedel.

If you're dumfounded by the Kovy and Ryan signings then you don't grasp a lot of concepts when it comes to hockey and salary cap.

I’d say that’s you chief. The team is clearly trying to get younger faster players to play around the core. Not old players that lost a step. And a cap strapped team sure would much rather have a younger player at an almost league minimum contract over 2 old heads making a combined 2.75 million.

Because of the Matheson deal, they're simply not in the financial position to continue that route effectively given what's on the market. Doing 1 year deals on a productive players like Kovy and Ryan who produce at a 3rd line rate and using the leftover to take a small gamble on Byfuglien is merely patching holes until they figure out their financial situation. There are no long-term investments. Scevior is also 31 years old, so clearly they're flexible.

But hey, if you're good with a Lafferty-McCann-Scevior 3rd line then enjoy.

They got Sceviour in the hornqvist deal. He is younger and faster than the guy we traded for him lol. That’s the point. It would be silly to put defensive albatrosses on your 3rd line just to make it slightly more productive. And who says the 3rd line has to have Lafferty on it?
Tanev, Simon, or Poulin would do just fine on the left wing. Sceviour played with McCann in Florida when their line was killing it right before trading for McCann. So they would likely have some decent chemistry. Lafferty is a solid fourth line option that can move up to 3rd line with injuries.
Buff is fat and slow. He wouldn’t fit in our system. There are better options to look at in free agency that would fit the system better and be just as cheap. Pysyk could be on that’s a low risk/high reward type 3RD.

1) JR has basically said Simon is gone.
2) Scevior is 31 and Horn is 33, so don't act like they added much to the youth movement lol. He's not THAT fast. He's also terrible defensively and has no real scoring touch.
3) You, nor does ANYONE have any idea if Poulin is ready and good enough to stick in the NHL, let alone the 3rd line, so banking on someone who's never played in the NHL is foolish.
4) Who says Lafferty has to be on it? Well, you're not left with many options are you? I'm not against moving Tanev up, but they seem to be locked in on that line to shake it up, so who the heck is left?
5) There aren't any really good options for $1M at RD. Most teams take a small low risk/high reward gamble.
6) You really don't know too much about hockey.

1) source?
2) was Sceviour the main part of the deal? No. Matheson was, however Sceviour is younger and faster than Hornqvist too. That’s a fact.
3) You, nor does anyone know if Ryan or Kovy would stick on this team or have any gas left tbh. Ryan wasn’t exactly great last year.
4) again Tanev, Simon, Poulin. The coach juggles lines all the time. Considering ZAR is going to be out for the beginning of the year, if not traded, I don’t think that 4th line is set in stone anymore...at least not at the beginning of the season.
5) no crap. And neither is buff. But you take a low risk/high reward gamble on someone whose play style fits your current play style. Not a cow that hasn’t played in a year.
6) well considering your the one spitting stupidity on here, I’d say that is you, chief 👍

1) The source was the JR interview on Madden that everyone heard and was widely reported on, so you can go look that part up yourself.
2) My point about Scevior is they are clearly flexible on age. Just because they want to get younger doesn't mean EVERY player has to be younger. You're clearly not one for gray areas.
3) Kovy put up 26 points in 46 games which is good for about a 40 point pace. Ryan has been consistently putting up 40 to 50 point pace the last seven years.
4) ZAR is getting traded? Says who? Simon won't be here.
5) Teams take gambles. It just happens. Someone will sign him.
6) Ok bigshot, you tell me, given the Pens' financial situation, who they should target for the 3rd line. Also realize that this armchair is a best case scenario. Realize that Johnson may very well be here, so if you had around $2.5 to $3M to fill out both wings on the 3rd line, who are you getting?

1.) nothing GMJR said in that interview mentioned Simon being traded. He said it will be hard to fit him under the cap at the current time. Doesn’t mean he is the one going to get traded. And given the fact that it’s “hard to fit him in the cap right now”, it’s easy to assume it will be hard to fit Kovy or Ryan in the cap too.
2.) Sceviour is younger than Hornqvist. In that trade both players they obtained was younger than the one they traded. You’re clearly not one for having a brain and common sense.
3.) Kovy also played most of the season in a top 6 role. He is also like 80 years old now. Bobby Ryan was pretty bad last season. And if you listened to GMJRs interview, after saying Simon would be hard to fit into the cap at the current time he also said he won’t add any prominent free agents.
4.) I didn’t say ZAR was going to get traded. I said it’s a possibility, just like it is with several other players. And Simon hasn’t been traded and there are literally no Simon trade rumors.
5.) cool, that will be someone else. We already are taking our gambles with making Jarry the starter and trading Hornqvist for Matheson and Sceviour.
6.) again moving Tanev up, Simon, Poulin. It’s common sense. If we were going to just put old farts that can’t skate anymore on the third line, Hornqvist would still be here because he at least is a better leader than Kovy or Ryan. I doubt GMJR adds anyone that’s old unless they can still somewhat skate at least.

Wow, you're dense.

Yes, yes you are 👍