Ostap it. We don't want useless Benning.

You said it before I could

Seriously? You guys ever heard of WAR or GAR? How about GF%? Please do yourself a favor and look it up before replying.

Direct quote from Treliving on this trade call from Holland? Lol.

Having good analytics isn't the be all and end all. And if he was that good, you wouldn't be wanting to trade him to Calgary

Winning your minutes is literally the "be all and end all". And Matt Benning has done is consistently ever since he joined the league - on a team that doesn't. Over the past 4 years, at 5v5:

Benning: 158 GF - 129 GA (55.05 GF%)
Oilers: 616 GF - 651 GA (48.62 GF%)

Here's the incredible thing, his numbers haven't been massively juiced by McDavid. Over the past 3 years:

TOI with McDavid: 695:37
TOI w/o MCDavid: 1739:49

He's a quality player. And I have never once suggested trading him to Calgary.

Why would McDavid have an affect on him when he gets no PP time and is on the last pairing for the majority of the game. Fortunately your point of view works for both of us because we have our own players we'll need to start developing on the last pairing and the #7 spot moving forward and hopefully at a smaller cap hit as well.

I will give you that he is a serviceable 3rd pairing player, but I wouldn't want him eating top 4 minutes for my team. This is probably more so coming from the fact that Calgary doesn't need a bottom pairing dman. Versus other needs we should be looking at.

Why is vegas doing this? If we are essentially giving away Martinez to get rid of fluery I’m ok with, but not taking back Neal’s train wreck contract back

Absolutely, only Edmonton fans genuinely believe he still has some value.

And these geniuses quoting analytics, how's that working for Dubas?... Analytics are good for getting a baseline, but it's definitely not he be all end all, people that rely on them have probably never played a game of hockey in their life beyond NHL 93 through 2020.