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Created by: Justahockeyfan
Initial Creation Date: Oct 26, 2020
Published: Oct 26, 2020 at 10:23
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Olofsson, Victor7$4,500,000
Trades
BUF
  1. Dzingel, Ryan
CAR
  1. Asplund, Rasmus
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (BUF)
  3. 2023 5th round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Criscuolo, Kyle
DET
  1. Okposo, Kyle
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey [RFA Rights]
Buyouts
  • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
  • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Eric Staal: $1,625,000 (50%)
  • Taylor Hall: $4,000,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2023
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$76,829,167$1,487,500$3,487,500$4,670,833
Left WingCenterRight Wing
BUF
Hall, Taylor
$4,000,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 1
BUF
Eichel, Jack
$10,000,000
C
UFA - 6
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
$4,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
BUF
Staal, Eric
$1,625,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
$5,200,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
CAR
Dzingel, Ryan
$3,375,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
BUF
Thompson, Tage
$1,400,000
RW, C
RFA - 3
BUF
Lazar, Curtis
$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
BUF
Girgensons, Zemgus
$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
BUF
Eakin, Cody
$2,250,000
C
UFA - 2
BUF
Rieder, Tobias
$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
BUF
Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$2,600,000
G
UFA - 1
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
BUF
Montour, Brandon
$3,850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
BUF
Hutton, Carter
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
BUF
McCabe, Jake
$2,850,000
LD
UFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
BUF
Irwin, Matt
$700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Oct 26, 2020 at 10:26
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Buffbry
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Will cost more then middlestadt to dump okposo
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Oct 26, 2020 at 10:27
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SomeHockeyDude
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Quoting: buffbry
Will cost more then middlestadt to dump okposo


add a 2nd?
Oct 26, 2020 at 10:34
#3
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Quoting: Justahockeyfan
add a 2nd?


Still no. Those contracts aren’t getting moved without significant compensation.
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Oct 26, 2020 at 10:41
#4
All in for Aatu
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Take out Asplund and the 3rd in that Dzingel trade.
Oct 26, 2020 at 10:46
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Buffbry
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Quoting: Justahockeyfan
add a 2nd?


It was a 2nd for one year of 5.7 so this is 3 years at 6. Gonna take a first a 2nd and Samuelson or Ryan Johnson prob at this point maybe even both. Tough contract
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Oct 27, 2020 at 12:01
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: buffbry
It was a 2nd for one year of 5.7 so this is 3 years at 6. Gonna take a first a 2nd and Samuelson or Ryan Johnson prob at this point maybe even both. Tough contract


He played 4th line minutes in Buffalo and was tied for 6th with goals and 7th in points on Det. Its not a tough contract. Okposo can still play, just not with Eichel
Oct 27, 2020 at 12:30
#7
Buffbry
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Quoting: Shibbal18
He played 4th line minutes in Buffalo and was tied for 6th with goals and 7th in points on Det. Its not a tough contract. Okposo can still play, just not with Eichel


It's a bad Contract, you can keep it if you think 6M is good on the 4th line. We aren't taking anything less then 1st + 2nd + prospect
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Oct 27, 2020 at 6:55
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arky
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In a league that has will have revenue drop due to the covid pandemic and lost of gate revenue, teams will look long and hard and the bottom line. That being said teams will not be taking bad contracts like Okposo and his 6 million a year for 3 more years unless the unload some money going back or get a major sweetener. Wings took on Staal for 4 .5 million but that was for 1 year. I beleive teams and GM's who are smart will look long and hard before taking on contracts that are over 4 million and more than one year. Even with picks and prospects the money is just not there to take on such deals.
Oct 27, 2020 at 8:47
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Tage Thompson is not a center!
Oct 27, 2020 at 2:00
#10
Shibbal18
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Quoting: buffbry
It's a bad Contract, you can keep it if you think 6M is good on the 4th line. We aren't taking anything less then 1st + 2nd + prospect


He wouldnt be on your 4th line is the point
Oct 27, 2020 at 2:07
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Quoting: mikearky
In a league that has will have revenue drop due to the covid pandemic and lost of gate revenue, teams will look long and hard and the bottom line. That being said teams will not be taking bad contracts like Okposo and his 6 million a year for 3 more years unless the unload some money going back or get a major sweetener. Wings took on Staal for 4 .5 million but that was for 1 year. I beleive teams and GM's who are smart will look long and hard before taking on contracts that are over 4 million and more than one year. Even with picks and prospects the money is just not there to take on such deals.

Staal’s actual cash for Detroit is his base salary of 3.2M since his 1M signing bonus was paid by the Rangers pre-trade.

Quoting: Shibbal18
He wouldnt be on your 4th line is the point

He would be bottom six and at 6M that’s bad. That’s also not accounting for the roster spot that would be used in that time for our youngsters like Rasmussen, Veleno, and Berggren getting that spot in the upcoming year or the following which pushes him even further. It would be a different discussion if the term was a year but it’s not and we’ve seen deals like Schmidt and Toews getting shipped out for peanuts because how important cap is right now.
Oct 27, 2020 at 2:25
#12
Buffbry
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Quoting: Shibbal18
He wouldnt be on your 4th line is the point


Yeah he would and that Contract is brutal. You're high on him so you can keep him, if not it will cost you the above assets
Oct 27, 2020 at 3:50
#13
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Okposo, in this COVID cap world, is probably worth around $1.5-2M. I think there could be opportunity to trade him is we retain 50% (making him $3M on the cap) and add in a piece. But then we'd only be getting like $2M in savings because we still would have to replace his roster spot.

I don't think it's realistic to trade him.
Oct 27, 2020 at 4:43
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: buffbry
Yeah he would and that Contract is brutal. You're high on him so you can keep him, if not it will cost you the above assets


Even after draft and free agency, Okposo would easily slot in with Bobby Ryan on the 3rd line, actually would be pretty interesting
Oct 27, 2020 at 4:44
#15
Buffbry
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Even after draft and free agency, Okposo would easily slot in with Bobby Ryan on the 3rd line, actually would be pretty interesting


I don't think so, he would be on the 4th line making 6M. I'm good with not taking him
Oct 27, 2020 at 4:45
#16
Shibbal18
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Quoting: BStinson
Staal’s actual cash for Detroit is his base salary of 3.2M since his 1M signing bonus was paid by the Rangers pre-trade.


He would be bottom six and at 6M that’s bad. That’s also not accounting for the roster spot that would be used in that time for our youngsters like Rasmussen, Veleno, and Berggren getting that spot in the upcoming year or the following which pushes him even further. It would be a different discussion if the term was a year but it’s not and we’ve seen deals like Schmidt and Toews getting shipped out for peanuts because how important cap is right now.


Rasmussen and Veleno are both centers and Berggren doesnt even have a contract yet. Veleno is still 1-2 years away
Oct 27, 2020 at 4:46
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Shibbal18
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Quoting: buffbry
I don't think so, he would be on the 4th line making 6M. I'm good with not taking him


You can keep saying that, it doesnt mean anything, and im not interested in a 'get the last word in to win' argument
Oct 27, 2020 at 4:53
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Rasmussen and Veleno are both centers and Berggren doesnt even have a contract yet. Veleno is still 1-2 years away


Rasmussen can play both center and wing and I believe his game is better suited as a winger. I also believe he will play in the NHL next season. Berggren not having a contract is irrelevant as he’s currently playing in the SHL and can’t transfer mid season which is why I stated one year or more. The way he’s currently playing it’s not like they’re going to let him just walk either.
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Oct 27, 2020 at 5:19
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Buffbry
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Quoting: Shibbal18
You can keep saying that, it doesnt mean anything, and im not interested in a 'get the last word in to win' argument


But you just did
 
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