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Line shake up

Created by: BigDaddyOvech
Initial Creation Date: Oct 30, 2020
Published: Oct 30, 2020 at 4:48
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
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We've seen over and over similar opening night rosters. This is just for fun and I'm going to jump fence on my earlier opinion and say Holl gets traded. Although I know they can do paper transactions for Lehtonen, Robertson and Barabanov, I think it's kind of a demotivating thing to do to guys who potentially made the team.

I'm also assuming that Lehtonen, Barabonov and Mikheyev dominate at training camp.

Don't take this too seriously it's just to change up the convo a bit.
Trades
TOR
  1. 2021 7th round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Holl, Justin
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
Buried
  • Pierre Engvall: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
OTT
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,596,408$0$0$903,592
Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 4
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
$821,667
LW
RFA - 3
TOR
Thornton, Joe
$700,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Vesey, Jimmy
$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$874,125
LD
RFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
$1,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Boyd, Travis
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1

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Oct 30, 2020 at 5:48
#1
TCMonkey
Hockey 1st Sens 2nd
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OTT says no. We do not want Holl.

We have Zaitsev, Gudbranson, Josh Brown and Artem Zub, Jaros, and Thomson. PLUS Brannstrom who keeps insisting he prefers to play the right side and Bernard Docker who'll be coming in next year.
Oct 30, 2020 at 5:50
#2
BigDaddyOvech
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Quoting: TCMonkey
OTT says no. We do not want Holl.

We have Zaitsev, Gudbranson, Josh Brown and Artem Zub, Jaros, and Thomson. PLUS Brannstrom who keeps insisting he prefers to play the right side and Bernard Docker who'll be coming in next year.


Ya could be any team. Just picked OTT to piss off Sens fans smile It's possible he would fetch more than a 7th rounder too.
Oct 30, 2020 at 5:53
#3
TCMonkey
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Quoting: BigDaddyOvech
Ya could be any team. Just picked OTT to piss off Sens fans smile It's possible he would fetch more than a 7th rounder too.


Yep. The only player getting traded to OTT more on this site is Byron from the Canadians. At least you had the decency not to ask for a 3rd rounder. Haha.
Oct 30, 2020 at 5:54
#4
BigDaddyOvech
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Quoting: TCMonkey
Yep. The only player getting traded to OTT more on this site is Byron from the Canadians. At least you had the decency not to ask for a 3rd rounder. Haha.


I mean OTT has quite a bit of cap room so no surprise people pick there to unload contracts.
Oct 30, 2020 at 5:58
#5
TCMonkey
Hockey 1st Sens 2nd
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Quoting: BigDaddyOvech
I mean OTT has quite a bit of cap room so no surprise people pick there to unload contracts.


It's funny that people will look at another teams cap to help inform their choices but then give ZERO f's about whether or not that team needs that players in any way. Homers.
Oct 30, 2020 at 6:11
#6
TooMalevolent
Joined: Jul 2017
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I don't understand the point of this. I'm really excited by what I have seen/read about Lehtonen, but you just don't know how he will be. Why would you force him into your top4 where he could get exposed defensively (which has been a problem for this team). And on top of that lose Holl for a cap dump, despite knowing that with Muzzin he can play and be serviceable on your top4. Rather run 21 skaters with an extra dman.
Oct 30, 2020 at 6:12
#7
TooMalevolent
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Quoting: TCMonkey
OTT says no. We do not want Holl.

We have Zaitsev, Gudbranson, Josh Brown and Artem Zub, Jaros, and Thomson. PLUS Brannstrom who keeps insisting he prefers to play the right side and Bernard Docker who'll be coming in next year.


Holl is light years better then Gudbranson and he is essentially free here.
Oct 30, 2020 at 6:57
#8
themostleaf33
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Nylander on the third line is hillarious
Oct 30, 2020 at 7:04
#9
TCMonkey
Hockey 1st Sens 2nd
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Quoting: TooMalevolent
Holl is light years better then Gudbranson and he is essentially free here.


Who cares? Gudbranson is gone after this coming season and adding Holl only gets in the way of Bernard-Docker or Lassi Thomson or Artem Zub. We don't want him. We decline.
Oct 30, 2020 at 10:54
#10
TooMalevolent
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Quoting: TCMonkey
Who cares? Gudbranson is gone after this coming season and adding Holl only gets in the way of Bernard-Docker or Lassi Thomson or Artem Zub. We don't want him. We decline.


Bud in this reality it's a 7th round pick. Any GM would do that just for the sake of asset management. Again he would definitely make thier roster and he costs nothing. Next year if they wanted to make room for thier kids, they could flip him for a bigger return. The only thing with that franchise is that if they hit the floor, maybe they don't want to pay him.
Oct 31, 2020 at 8:30
#11
TCMonkey
Hockey 1st Sens 2nd
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Quoting: TooMalevolent
Bud in this reality it's a 7th round pick. Any GM would do that just for the sake of asset management. Again he would definitely make thier roster and he costs nothing. Next year if they wanted to make room for thier kids, they could flip him for a bigger return. The only thing with that franchise is that if they hit the floor, maybe they don't want to pay him.


Nope. Don't get me wrong. He's an okay player but if the salary cap is frozen for next season (and maybe more) then a $2M 3rd pairing D man won't be something GMs are jumping at. And the issue isn't about the 7th round pick, it's that he's a 3rd pairing guy who carries $2M cap hit for THREE seasons. Most teams would prefer to pick up a more experienced UFA on a 1 year deal OR give that ice time to an ELC player with top 4 potential to ease him in.
Oct 31, 2020 at 3:18
#12
BigDaddyOvech
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Quoting: themostleaf33
Nylander on the third line is hillarious


Yeah I dont at all think this will happen and I think Holl is worth more than a 7th easily. I was just messing around with lines to see if there was any discussion about if they would ever consider running something like this. Seems as though I've only attracted comments about a trade that isnt gonna happen anyways. Nylander for sure deserves more minutes.
 
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