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The Rebuild...

Created by: Fanatical
Team: 2017-18 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 29, 2016
Published: Nov. 29, 2016
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Sedins, Edler and Hansen traded. Nolan Patrick is our future hopefully...
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$4,875,000
2$3,500,000
4$4,250,000
2$1,100,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Boeser, Brock
3$950,000
Patrick, Nolan
3$950,000
1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Edler, Alexander
  2. Hansen, Jannik
Additional Details:
DET needs defense and has been after Edler for several years. Top pairing d-men are at a premium and the cost is Nyquist. Hansen has one year left and can supplement goals in Nyquists absence.
2.
VAN
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. 2018 2nd round pick (MIN)
Additional Details:
Rights to Nino Niederreiter

MIN
  1. Sedin, Henrik ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. Sedin, Daniel ($2,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Minnesota's core needs to make a run. Suter, Parise, Koivu, Pominville etc are all at the end of there primes. This trade will be there last shot to go for a cup run with the Sedins filling out there top 6. Canucks retain $4m of cap space in exchange for 2 kids one of which needs a new contract.
3.
VAN
  1. 2018 7th round pick (NYR)
OTT
  1. Sbisa, Luca
Additional Details:
Lost to expansion or traded for late pick.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$73,000,000$57,569,167$0$2,700,000$15,430,833

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
$4,875,000$4,875,000
C
UFA - 6
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
$1,850,000$1,850,000
LW
UFA - 1
$4,375,000$4,375,000
RW, C
NTC
UFA - 4
$3,325,000$3,325,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
Boeser, Brock
$950,000$950,000
Patrick, Nolan
$950,000$950,000
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA
$2,650,000$2,650,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$2,550,000$2,550,000
RD
UFA - 1
$4,450,000$4,450,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$3,666,667$3,666,667
G
UFA - 3
$2,800,000$2,800,000
LD
UFA - 2
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
G
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD
RFA

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Nov. 29, 2016 at 11:27 p.m.
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Hey fanatical,

Just for fun, make an AGM for those teams your trading with and let me know if they have the cap space to make these trades? My money is on not being able to. Nice analysis but unrealistic IMO.
Nov. 29, 2016 at 11:37 p.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
Hey fanatical,

Just for fun, make an AGM for those teams your trading with and let me know if they have the cap space to make these trades? My money is on not being able to. Nice analysis but unrealistic IMO.


Minni would have to make moves. Probably move ~$2m. Detroit is under the cap with all lines filled after the trade. They gain ~$3m but are offset through UFA losses.
Nov. 29, 2016 at 11:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Fanatical
Quoting: F50marco
Hey fanatical,

Just for fun, make an AGM for those teams your trading with and let me know if they have the cap space to make these trades? My money is on not being able to. Nice analysis but unrealistic IMO.


Minni would have to make moves. Probably move ~$2m. Detroit is under the cap with all lines filled after the trade. They gain ~$3m but are offset through UFA losses.


Also the Canucks can retain more money in the Sedins trade if needed. Maybe move from the 2nd to a 1st if that was the case.
Nov. 29, 2016 at 11:53 p.m.
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Bad trade for the Wild. $10m in rental players (without the cap space) that are about the same production level as a much younger Nino, and another young player in Dumba. After this season Wild lose Sedinsx2, Koivu, and buy Pommer out. Then they tank for the next 8 years of Suter/Parise contract?

Minny is transitioning to a younger core of Granny/Coyle/Nino (2010 draft picks), Dumba (eventually), Brodin, with Tuch, JEE, and Kunin hopefully ready to be middle-6 players in the next 2 years.
Nov. 30, 2016 at 12:57 a.m.
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Bad trade for the Wild. $10m in rental players (without the cap space) that are about the same production level as a much younger Nino, and another young player in Dumba. After this season Wild lose Sedinsx2, Koivu, and buy Pommer out. Then they tank for the next 8 years of Suter/Parise contract?

Minny is transitioning to a younger core of Granny/Coyle/Nino (2010 draft picks), Dumba (eventually), Brodin, with Tuch, JEE, and Kunin hopefully ready to be middle-6 players in the next 2 years.


Well they aint winning the cup anytime soon if thats the case...Might as well start the rebuild now if thats what your saying.
Nov. 30, 2016 at 1:08 a.m.
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Bad trade for the Wild. $10m in rental players (without the cap space) that are about the same production level as a much younger Nino, and another young player in Dumba. After this season Wild lose Sedinsx2, Koivu, and buy Pommer out. Then they tank for the next 8 years of Suter/Parise contract?

Minny is transitioning to a younger core of Granny/Coyle/Nino (2010 draft picks), Dumba (eventually), Brodin, with Tuch, JEE, and Kunin hopefully ready to be middle-6 players in the next 2 years.


Well they aint winning the cup anytime soon if thats the case...Might as well start the rebuild now if thats what your saying.


Not saying they are, but the Sedins don't push them into a Cup either. More 2nd liners is not what Minny needs, that's all they have already.
Nov. 30, 2016 at 1:30 a.m.
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I believe this is called a "gutting". Canucks just need to wait out the Sedins. It's almost there.
Nov. 30, 2016 at 2:53 a.m.
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With that much cap space they would take a run at Shattenkirk for around 7 million. (Remember Yandle took 6.35million)
Nov. 30, 2016 at 11:30 a.m.
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The detroit deal is not terrible, but I think Vancouver needs to add younger players and draft picks instead of Nyquist who is probably a bit old for the "future core" of Vancouver's team once they finally become a legit team again. I would love the Minni deal for Vancouver, but Minni would not make that trade, Only scenario they do is unless they seriously believe they can win the cup in the next two years, which shouldnt be the case. As for "if the deal" of the Sedin's goes through, no they would be unwise to sign shattenkirk to a long term deal just because they have cap space. Adding a quality dman like shattenkirk will just make them more competative now and doesnt allow Vancouver to bottom out and get lottery picks. Also it is smart to save cap space, in order to resign your young guys when they need a new deal. Saving money for when Boeser, Julolevi, Demko and other drafted guys when they need a new ticket is the better way to go for a rebuilding team
 
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