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Created by: PENSFAN1991
Team: 2020-21 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 21, 2021
Published: Jan. 21, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (CBJ)
  3. 2021 7th round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Zucker, Jason
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
2.
PIT
  1. Gibson, John ($500,000 retained)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Jarry, Tristan
  3. Poulin, Samuel
  4. 2022 1st round pick (PIT)
  5. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$79,031,842$0$850,000$2,468,158
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,940,000$2,940,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
G
UFA - 7
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW
UFA - 2
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$733,333$733,333 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1

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Jan. 21, 2021 at 8:55 a.m.
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Both teams Reject.
29 yr old winger whos hit over 50pts once for a 22 yr old C who has 1 seasons of over 60pts and 2 over 45pts already.
ANA isn't trading Gibson.
Jan. 21, 2021 at 8:57 a.m.
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That doesnt get you Gibson, none of those pieces are high impact or even have the potential to be, easy pass
Jan. 21, 2021 at 9:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Salzy
That doesnt get you Gibson, none of those pieces are high impact or even have the potential to be, easy pass


I mean it’s essentially 3 firsts and Jarry for Gibson... that’s a BIG payment especially considering we don’t know what Pit will look like in 2023. Pens definitely would never do that
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 9:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Salzy
That doesnt get you Gibson, none of those pieces are high impact or even have the potential to be, easy pass


CBJ doesn't consider that, but ANA definitely should. The Ducks aren't close to contending right now, and likely won't be for the rest of Gibson's prime. He's very good, but goalies usually don't return this much in a trade. It gives the Ducks an extra couple 1sts, a good prospect, a bit more cap flexibility, and maybe they can get something for Ceci at the deadline. I'd jump on it if I were Bob Murray.
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 9:50 a.m.
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CBJ doesn't consider that, but ANA definitely should. The Ducks aren't close to contending right now, and likely won't be for the rest of Gibson's prime. He's very good, but goalies usually don't return this much in a trade. It gives the Ducks an extra couple 1sts, a good prospect, a bit more cap flexibility, and maybe they can get something for Ceci at the deadline. I'd jump on it if I were Bob Murray.


Thats why you arent a GM, none of those pieces will be high impact and Poulin is one of the most overrated prospects on this site. Nothing in that package makes moving Gibson even the slightest bit tempting
Jan. 21, 2021 at 10:03 a.m.
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Thats why you arent a GM, none of those pieces will be high impact and Poulin is one of the most overrated prospects on this site. Nothing in that package makes moving Gibson even the slightest bit tempting


No need to be rude, Salzy. How can you say nothing from this return will be high impact, when the two biggest pieces you're receiving are unprotected 1st round picks? Do you have a crystal ball that tells you the Ducks would whiff on those picks? Poulin looks like he'll be at least a solid middle-six player - maybe more. Anaheim isn't a playoff team right now, and very likely won't be a contender in the next few years, with or without Gibson. I'm not sure why PIT would do this, but it's a very generous offer.
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 10:18 a.m.
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Thats why you arent a GM, none of those pieces will be high impact and Poulin is one of the most overrated prospects on this site. Nothing in that package makes moving Gibson even the slightest bit tempting


This is a clear overpay pal
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 10:41 a.m.
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Thats why you arent a GM, none of those pieces will be high impact and Poulin is one of the most overrated prospects on this site. Nothing in that package makes moving Gibson even the slightest bit tempting


FFS goalies do not retain value when it comes to trades. This has been proven over and over again.
That is such a massive overpayment on a goalie it's not even funny.
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Jan. 21, 2021 at 10:41 a.m.
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no way CBJ does that. I don't see them moving PLD for at least 2 years.
Jan. 21, 2021 at 2:40 p.m.
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Why on earth would the pens make such a massive overpayment. John Gibson is really good yes, but he's coming off of two very down years AND he's barely even been above average in the playoffs. There could be a strong argument that Gibson isn't even a top 5 goalie in the league right now.
 
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