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Created by: GiantBoots

Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 11, 2021

Published: Feb. 11, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Wings:
Get William Lagesson, 3rd-round pick
Lose 7th-round pick, about $2.2M in cap space

Oilers:
Get Marc-Andre Fleury (1yr, $1.75M), 7th-round pick, almost $3M in cap space
Lose James Neal, William Lagesson

Vegas:
Get James Neal (2yrs, $1.4375M), $3.5M in cap space
Lose Marc-Andre Fleury, 3rd-round pick

Maybe a 3rd is too high for Vegas to give up. Still, interesting little use of cap space. Also, how does Detroit get better?

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Raymond, Lucas		3	$925,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler	8	$7,000,000
Cholowski, Dennis	1	$950,000
Djoos, Christian	1	$1,100,000
Erne, Adam	1	$1,025,000
Hirose, Taro	1	$900,000
Hronek, Filip	2	$1,750,000
Rasmussen, Michael	1	$950,000
Svechnikov, Evgeny	1	$925,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Bernier, Jonathan	2	$2,000,000
Ryan, Bobby	2	$2,000,000
Gagner, Sam	1	$750,000

Trades

DET

Neal, James ($2,875,000 retained)

EDM

2022 7th round pick (DET)

DET

Fleury, Marc-André ($3,500,000 retained)
2022 3rd round pick (VAN)

VGK

Neal, James ($1,437,500 retained)

DET

Lagesson, William

EDM

Fleury, Marc-André ($1,750,000 retained)

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556

Retained Salary Transactions

James Neal: $1,437,500 (191.67%)
Marc-André Fleury: $1,750,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$56,700,556	$0	$1,700,000	$24,799,444

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Zadina, Filip $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C UFA - 2	Mantha, Anthony $2,850,000$2,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
	Fabbri, Robby $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW UFA - 1	Namestnikov, Vladislav $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1
Bertuzzi, Tyler $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Rasmussen, Michael $950,000$950,000 LW, C UFA - 3	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$925,000 RW, LW RFA - 3
Svechnikov, Evgeny $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Nielsen, Frans $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Ryan, Bobby $2,000,000$2,000,000 RW, LW UFA
Hirose, Taro $900,000$900,000 LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
DeKeyser, Danny $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Stecher, Troy $1,700,000$1,700,000 RD UFA - 1	Bernier, Jonathan $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 2
	Hronek, Filip $1,750,000$1,750,000 RD RFA - 3	Greiss, Thomas $3,600,000$3,600,000 G UFA - 1
	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 3
Cholowski, Dennis $950,000$950,000 LD RFA - 1
Lagesson, William $725,000$725,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Erne, Adam $1,025,000$1,025,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Gagner, Sam $750,000$750,000 RW, C UFA - 1
Djoos, Christian $1,100,000$1,100,000 LD UFA

Feb. 11, 2021 at 6:48 a.m.

DeadWingsv2

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Especially with the way he's playing right now, zero chance Vegas gives up any additional assets OR retains money on MAF.

Feb. 11, 2021 at 6:52 a.m.

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Dude you can't retain more then 50% of a players salary, Both Neal and Marc Andre-Fleury are over the 50% threshold.

Feb. 11, 2021 at 7:07 a.m.

Timmah007

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Edmonton easily declines.

Feb. 11, 2021 at 9:14 a.m.

redw1n9s

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What in the world?

Nice Bert contract btw..

Feb. 11, 2021 at 9:42 a.m.

BStinson

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So I’m assuming these trades occur next year based on the ACGM season? If so, that’s retention for 2 slots and 1.75M (MAF) + (1.44M * 2 years for Neal) = 4.63M in cap space and 1.5M cash (Fleury) + 2.88M cash (Neal). To put it into perspective Staal cost us roughly 3.2M cash total and filled a spot.

Feb. 11, 2021 at 9:54 a.m.

CD282

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Kudos for working through a complicated and delicate trade scenario.

Feb. 11, 2021 at 10:15 a.m.

aedoran

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Also Fleury doesn't waive if he ends up in Detroit and if Edmonton pulls something like that they pull something like that they can kiss free agents good bye.

Feb. 11, 2021 at 11:46 a.m.

buffbry

Buffbry

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I think the wings pass, they would need more compensation for taking 2 spots

Feb. 11, 2021 at 3:31 p.m.

GiantBoots

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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58

Dude you can't retain more then 50% of a players salary, Both Neal and Marc Andre-Fleury are over the 50% threshold.

In each of these trades, the original teams retain 50% of the salary and then the Wings also retain 50% of the remaining salary. It has been done before: Toronto briefly had Robin Lehner and retained $1.25M as he was traded from Chicago to Vegas.

Feb. 11, 2021 at 4:30 p.m.

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GiantBoots

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Quoting: buffbry

I think the wings pass, they would need more compensation for taking 2 spots

Is having 2 retained salaries a big deal? What else were they gonna retain?

Feb. 11, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.

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GiantBoots

Thread Starter

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Quoting: BStinson

This does seem worse. But I think that Staal deal might've just been amazing and may never come again.

Feb. 11, 2021 at 4:57 p.m.

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BStinson

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Quoting: GiantBoots

This does seem worse. But I think that Staal deal might've just been amazing and may never come again.

The Staal trade was actually significantly lower than Marleau’s so I wouldn’t say we will never see a deal like that again.

Feb. 11, 2021 at 5:06 p.m.

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buffbry

Buffbry

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Quoting: GiantBoots

Is having 2 retained salaries a big deal? What else were they gonna retain?

You only get 3, this could limit who they would retain at the deadline when making deals to get more assets. I just think we need more to take 2 retention spots and the salary, or it's a no go.

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