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Forsberg

Created by: JTrades
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 21, 2021
Published: Feb. 21, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Probably never going to happen but what do you thing? The article had a first, Anderson, and Noemela. Plus kerfoor going to another team. If I was Nashville I will take home and flip him again.

This is a steep price to pay for sure but you get a good third line C, and a top 6 forward without giving up an impact player that you don't replace
Trades
TOR
  1. Forsberg, Filip ($3,000,000 retained)
  2. Järnkrok, Calle
NSH
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. Liljegren, Timothy
  4. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
  5. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$80,399,741$0$0$1,100,259
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$700,000$700,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$874,125$874,125
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$725,000$725,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,050,000$1,050,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
RFA - 1

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Feb. 21, 2021 at 6:58 p.m.
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I like Forsberg....but i think Nas would want a young good prospect like Robertson or Amirov and a first round pick and more.
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Feb. 21, 2021 at 6:59 p.m.
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Can I ask what article you're referring to, in the team explanation?

NSH doesn't consider this offer. If you want Forsberg for that kind of retention, it's going to cost you a few pieces it would hurt to give up.
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Feb. 21, 2021 at 7:01 p.m.
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Quoting: gmgb
Can I ask what article you're referring to, in the team explanation?

NSH doesn't consider this offer. If you want Forsberg for that kind of retention, it's going to cost you a few pieces it would hurt to give up.


"I know it's a steep price to pay" lmao, yea for NSH not TOR as he implied
Feb. 21, 2021 at 7:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Shinsei_Leafs
I like Forsberg....but i think Nas would want a young good prospect like Robertson or Amirov and a first round pick and more.


Well Robertson is a no but depending on what the offer is I'd personally consider anyone else
Feb. 21, 2021 at 7:08 p.m.
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https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2021/02/21/exploring-the-prospects-of-a-filip-forsberg-trade-to-toronto/

I actually meant for both sides as it would drastically change the make up and future outlook of each team. What would it take for you to accept?
Feb. 21, 2021 at 8:00 p.m.
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Quoting: JTrades
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2021/02/21/exploring-the-prospects-of-a-filip-forsberg-trade-to-toronto/

I actually meant for both sides as it would drastically change the make up and future outlook of each team. What would it take for you to accept?


Thanks for sharing that! It's not a blog that I normally read, so it wasn't on my radar. It was an... interesting read.

My two biggest problems with his take are:
1/ The author admits TOR underpaid for Muzzin, and that Forsberg carries more value than Muzzin (I believe the gap is greater than he infers, but comparing forwards and defensemen isn't an exact science), but he doesn't account for either of those in his proposal.

2/ The author acknowledges that NSH would need compensation for retaining salary on Forsberg, but offers Kerfoot as that compensation. Need aside (NSH has too many 3C's as it stands, all on more attractive contracts than Kerfoot's), Adding his salary adds to the burden of retaining on Forsberg - not the other way around. If NSH is going to spend $6M on one player, why would they choose a redundant role player over a the kind of highly skilled star they don't have enough of?

Now your proposal here does have a Liljegren who would be a addition to NSH, and a 2nd, but you're also asking for Jarnkrok, more $ retention, and sending Engvall who doesn't have value to NSH. I guess both your proposal and the one from hot stove are about equal value-wise, but neither is anything close to what NSH would need.

If TOR is hell-bent on trying to acquire Forsberg (no retained salary) without one of Robertson or Sandin being part of the return, I think multiple 1sts would have to be a feature of the package. The Preds aren't going to move Forsberg without giving themselves at least a chance to land a guy of his skill one day. The more salary TOR needs NSH to retain or the more undesirable to NSH contracts they want to include (Kerfoot, Engvall, Vesey, etc), the more that drives the price up. If someone like Kerfoot is worth a 2nd-late 1st as the article suggests, I'd like the Leafs find that trade, then add that return to this offer. I'm not a fan of the "if they don't want this guy, they can just flip him for such and such a return" proposals. I guess I see way too many of them on these boards, but I just find that argument lazy.
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Feb. 21, 2021 at 8:25 p.m.
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Thanks for sharing that! It's not a blog that I normally read, so it wasn't on my radar. It was an... interesting read.

My two biggest problems with his take are:
1/ The author admits TOR underpaid for Muzzin, and that Forsberg carries more value than Muzzin (I believe the gap is greater than he infers, but comparing forwards and defensemen isn't an exact science), but he doesn't account for either of those in his proposal.

2/ The author acknowledges that NSH would need compensation for retaining salary on Forsberg, but offers Kerfoot as that compensation. Need aside (NSH has too many 3C's as it stands, all on more attractive contracts than Kerfoot's), Adding his salary adds to the burden of retaining on Forsberg - not the other way around. If NSH is going to spend $6M on one player, why would they choose a redundant role player over a the kind of highly skilled star they don't have enough of?

Now your proposal here does have a Liljegren who would be a addition to NSH, and a 2nd, but you're also asking for Jarnkrok, more $ retention, and sending Engvall who doesn't have value to NSH. I guess both your proposal and the one from hot stove are about equal value-wise, but neither is anything close to what NSH would need.

If TOR is hell-bent on trying to acquire Forsberg (no retained salary) without one of Robertson or Sandin being part of the return, I think multiple 1sts would have to be a feature of the package. The Preds aren't going to move Forsberg without giving themselves at least a chance to land a guy of his skill one day. The more salary TOR needs NSH to retain or the more undesirable to NSH contracts they want to include (Kerfoot, Engvall, Vesey, etc), the more that drives the price up. If someone like Kerfoot is worth a 2nd-late 1st as the article suggests, I'd like the Leafs find that trade, then add that return to this offer. I'm not a fan of the "if they don't want this guy, they can just flip him for such and such a return" proposals. I guess I see way too many of them on these boards, but I just find that argument lazy.


Thanks for reading and for the thoughtful response. If the leafs trade kerfoot for picks instead of inserting him into the trade, what picks would need to go in the trade? Aside from the first and second already in the trade
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Feb. 21, 2021 at 10:19 p.m.
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Thanks for reading and for the thoughtful response. If the leafs trade kerfoot for picks instead of inserting him into the trade, what picks would need to go in the trade? Aside from the first and second already in the trade


You mean your original proposal of Forsberg (50% retained) & Jarnkrok? It's still going to be way more than you want to pay. Amirov, 2-3 firsts, + territory.
 
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