Fire Bergevin

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Created by: mistergm87

Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 24, 2021

Published: Feb. 24, 2021

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I know that firing Claude Julien was the right move and all that but, i feel bergevin should be gone if mtl doesn't make the playoffs this year.
The mete story is something i find very concerning imo, rumors leaaks that mete has asked for a trade because he is not playing. ( His value is absolutely nothing because he doesn't play)
Then, out of nowhere, mete starts playing every game almost. Kulak is bench and romanov also. Mete plays like crap saturday against Toronto and he's still in the lineup which i don't understand at all. Romanov played one bad game and he's in the stands. Mete sucks and he's still playing. I found this very weird. I hope Bergevin wasn't in Julien ears telling him who should be plaaying and all that but it sures looks like it. IMO bergevin was trying to boost mete value because i don't understand the logic behind claude julien not playing mete all of the first 10 games and them after all the rumors playing him everytime. It makes no sense to me.
This team sucked last year and i feel like this team was super overhyped at the start of the year because if you compare this team to the one that was in the floor of the standings last year, they are very similar. Okay, he added Toffoli who is a upgrade and Anderson also an upgrade from Domi but thoses players aren't game changers, they are a little bit more than average at best. The rest of the team is the same and some of their best guys are regressing. Price is not the same, Weber is not a top 2 defenceman, Chiarot is baad and Kotkaniemi has been regressing ever since he got drafted (except for the bubble where he had 5-6 great games but this season, he's been pretty bad). Bergevin has tied his hands with the salary cap because he overpaid everybody and they aren't near contenders level imo. Its sad to see but i feel like this team needs a big retool.

Trades

MTL

VAN

Lehkonen, Artturi
Norlinder, Mattias [Reserve List]
Price, Carey
2021 2nd round pick (TBL)

MTL

Montour, Brandon ($1,925,000 retained)

BUF

Mete, Victor
Tatar, Tomas
2021 3rd round pick (WSH)

MTL

BUF

Byron, Paul
Caufield, Cole [Reserve List]
Chiarot, Ben
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
Poehling, Ryan
2021 1st round pick (MTL)
2021 2nd round pick (MTL)

MTL

Lemieux, Brendan

NYR

Fleury, Cale
Sheahan, Riley
2021 4th round pick (VGK)

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $3,958,333

Buried

Jordan Weal: $325,000 ($1,400,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

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LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$75,631,309	$0	$637,500	$5,868,691

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 6	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 1
Toffoli, Tyler $2,125,000$2,125,000 RW, LW UFA - 4	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) C UFA - 2	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 7
Roussel, Antoine $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Danault, Phillip $3,083,333$3,083,333 C UFA - 1	Virtanen, Jake $2,550,000$2,550,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Lemieux, Brendan $1,550,000$1,550,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Evans, Jake $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $2,600,000$2,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 2	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 6	Allen, Jake $4,350,000$4,350,000 G UFA - 1
Schmidt, Nate $5,950,000$5,950,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 5	Montour, Brandon $1,925,000$1,925,000 RD UFA - 1	Demko, Thatcher $1,050,000$1,050,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Perry, Corey $750,000$750,000 RW UFA - 1
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 2

Taxi Squad
Frolík, Michael $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW, RW UFA - 1
Belzile, Alex $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) C, RW UFA - 1
McNiven, Michael $700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 1

Feb. 24, 2021 at 2:33 p.m.

Ryminister_27

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I think Bergevin has a long leash with management and it's been earned. He's constructed a roster that can play almost any style of play and he's managed the cap well. He's draft record is pretty good, and he's been winning a lot of trades by a landslide for a few years. The coaching change should help a lot. I don't think he's on the hot seat at all.

Side note: Romanov hasn't looked good in more than 1 game. Every game against Toronto he's looked out of place and he can clearly be out muscled and passed by with speed. He might need some time in the AHL to develop better before he loses all confidence.

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Feb. 24, 2021 at 2:38 p.m.

Kotkaniemi15

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“Mete starts playing every game almost”

He was put into the lineup for 1 game after Kulak struggled, played really well, and then played 2 more games before getting taken out of the lineup again. He took 2 borderline penalties, but wasn’t that bad.

Also, all of the decisions in regards to Mete are made by CJ, not by Bergy. So all you’re doing is supporting that CJ deserved to be fired.

Feb. 24, 2021 at 2:39 p.m.

mistergm87

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Quoting: Ryminister_27

don't agree with the fact that he managed the cap well. He has average player evrery where but this makes mtl an average team. They need a star player like eichel ( only one that might be on the market imo) because thats what it takes to win the cup. You need to have guys that are game-changers on your top6 who might get paid more but, a team needs to have cheap depth to compensate for that. You can't have 14M$ on your goaltender and like 10M$ on your third line and top 6 defenceman being paid almost 4M$

Feb. 24, 2021 at 2:42 p.m.

mistergm87

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

what makes you think that. we don't know what is going on behind the scenes, if MB feels he has authority on the head coach because he is the GM and its his team them he can decide what he wants. If the head coach doesnz,t agree then he is fired. I said CJ deserved to be fired, but the blame is not all on him imo. Not on Kirk muller also

Feb. 24, 2021 at 2:46 p.m.

Kotkaniemi15

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Quoting: mistergm87

Even if he were to do something like that (which just doesn’t happen) what is his motivation for making this decision, and why is it grounds for him being fired?

You’re arguing that Bergevin should be fired for a lineup decision on a depth player that is probably a less that 1% probability that he even made that decision.

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Feb. 24, 2021 at 2:52 p.m.

mistergm87

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

well if mtl doesn't make the playoffs then he should be fired because it would show that CJ maybe wasn't the problem and i also point to the fact that mtl media really overhyped thisteam and MB. everybody was ready to say that mtl was winning the cup and bergevin is gm of the year and blablabla and i feel like the fact that they were coming back to normal right now pissed off Bergevin. I feel like he still see like Mtl can be a contender this year wihch is not the case

Feb. 24, 2021 at 2:56 p.m.

Kotkaniemi15

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Quoting: mistergm87

Ok, I see you don’t have any valid points, and are clearly just salty that the habs beat the Pens in the play-ins last year. Well, anyways, he isn’t getting fired since you’re not Geoff Moulson. Have fun watching the Pens deal with the wreckage that Jim Rutherford left behind over the next few years. 👋

Feb. 24, 2021 at 2:57 p.m.

MTLFAN27

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Chill on KK man. He certainly hasn't regressed from last season. Last playoffs maybe but not last season. He has 8 PTS in 18 games while not even playing in the top 6 and not playing much on the PP.

Feb. 24, 2021 at 3:00 p.m.

palhal

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As an outsider....I thought Montreal was coming on last season. The additions this year put the Habs is a great situation this year.
Gee, I can't understand their sudden decline......Seem to have good LWers and RWers. Maybe just a average centres but they are young. Defence should be at better than most as is the goaltending.

Thought the Leafs, Habs, and Jets are the class of the division and each team just takes its chances in the playoffs.

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Feb. 24, 2021 at 3:11 p.m.

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mistergm87

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Quoting: palhal

edmonton should be their also. Can't underestimate mcdavid and draisaitl

Feb. 24, 2021 at 3:16 p.m.

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mistergm87

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

i can guaraantee you that he gets fired if they don't make the playoffs (which is a huge possibility) and don't care rutherford won 2 cups with pittsburgh something mtl haven't and will probably not for the next 10 years because of their horrible contracts and no superstar talent. i said superstar not star so i don't waanna hear nothing about caufield and suzuki and definitely not kk

Feb. 24, 2021 at 9:33 p.m.

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VAN is not making that deal. They want nothing to do with that Price contract.

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