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Created by: Zmach
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 15, 2021
Published: Mar. 15, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
In this scenario Klefbom doesnt come back. Oilers move on.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,200,000
2$1,350,000
2$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
4$5,500,000
3$3,000,000
3$5,000,000
1$850,000
2$1,000,000
2$900,000
2$1,500,000
6$6,500,000
Trades
1.
EDM
    seattle
    2.
    3.
    EDM
    1. 2021 2nd round pick (TOR)
    TOR
    1. Stalock, Alex
    Additional Details:
    Toronto goes with a goalie budget of 3 million to free up cap for forwards.
    4.
    EDM
      Buried
      VGK
        Kyle Turris
        James Neal
        Buyouts
        Retained Salary Transactions
        Buried
        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2021
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        Logo of the TOR
        Logo of the EDM
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        Logo of the PIT
        Logo of the EDM
        2022
        Logo of the EDM
        Logo of the EDM
        Logo of the EDM
        Logo of the EDM
        Logo of the EDM
        Logo of the EDM
        Logo of the EDM
        2023
        Logo of the EDM
        Logo of the EDM
        Logo of the EDM
        Logo of the EDM
        Logo of the EDM
        Logo of the EDM
        Logo of the EDM
        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        23$81,500,000$80,957,672$669,339$850,000$542,328
        Left WingCentreRight Wing
        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $12,500,000$12,500,000
        C
        UFA - 5
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $1,175,000$1,175,000
        RW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $6,500,000$6,500,000
        LW, C
        UFA - 8
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $8,500,000$8,500,000
        C, LW
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $3,200,000$3,200,000
        RW
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $925,000$925,000
        LW, C
        RFA - 3
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $1,350,000$1,350,000
        LW, C
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $900,000$900,000
        RW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $3,200,000$3,200,000
        RW
        UFA - 3
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        C, RW, LW
        UFA - 2
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $5,600,000$5,600,000
        LD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $5,500,000$5,500,000
        RD
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
        $4,000,000$4,000,000
        G
        UFA - 1
        $3,000,000$3,000,000
        G
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $3,000,000$3,000,000
        RD
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $725,000$725,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
        RD
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $850,000$850,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 2
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $1,000,000$1,000,000
        C
        UFA
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $4,167,000$4,167,000
        LD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $850,000$850,000
        LW, C, RW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $1,250,000$1,250,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 1

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        Mar. 15, 2021 at 12:36 p.m.
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        I don't understand why Jones would be available to Seattle if Klefbom isn't returning. I wasn't aware that Lagesson is considered a better prospect than Jones.

        Similarly, I don't see that Merzilikins is so much of an improvement over Koskinen that you'd trade Bear away to get him, and if he is, would Columbus be all that eager to trade him away?
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        Mar. 15, 2021 at 12:40 p.m.
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        Quoting: OldNYIfan
        I don't understand why Jones would be available to Seattle if Klefbom isn't returning. I wasn't aware that Lagesson is considered a better prospect than Jones.

        Similarly, I don't see that Merzilikins is so much of an improvement over Koskinen that you'd trade Bear away to get him, and if he is, would Columbus be all that eager to trade him away?


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        Mar. 15, 2021 at 12:40 p.m.
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        Quoting: OldNYIfan
        I don't understand why Jones would be available to Seattle if Klefbom isn't returning. I wasn't aware that Lagesson is considered a better prospect than Jones.

        Similarly, I don't see that Merzilikins is so much of an improvement over Koskinen that you'd trade Bear away to get him, and if he is, would Columbus be all that eager to trade him away?


        Lagesson brings something that Edmonton needs. Jones brings what Edmonton already has.
        Mar. 15, 2021 at 12:43 p.m.
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        Quoting: OldNYIfan
        I don't understand why Jones would be available to Seattle if Klefbom isn't returning. I wasn't aware that Lagesson is considered a better prospect than Jones.

        Similarly, I don't see that Merzilikins is so much of an improvement over Koskinen that you'd trade Bear away to get him, and if he is, would Columbus be all that eager to trade him away?


        Lagesson is doing phenomenal hes a shutdown D and can play heavy minutes Jones is a better skater but a work in progress.

        In this situation edmonton would have too many RD and need to move one for an asset or something they need which is a goaltender. I think edmonton would overpay to get a good goalie at this point.
        Mar. 15, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.
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        I'm starting to think Nuge gets around $6.25mill x 6 or 7 years. Rishaug just said talks extension talks have resumed and were previously in the $6mill - $6.5mill range. In Holland's midseason press conference he was clear that he didn't want to sign him to a deal that doesn't make sense for the team given the flat cap. You also have to consider the fact that he has 9 5v5 points and is a -1 in 30 games on McD's wing for the majority. I like the guy and he means a lot to the team and fanbase, but I'm starting to highly doubt he gets $7mill. I know I'll get lit up on here for saying this
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        Mar. 15, 2021 at 12:53 p.m.
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        Quoting: Copenhagen
        Lagesson brings something that Edmonton needs. Jones brings what Edmonton already has.


        Quoting: Zmach
        Lagesson is doing phenomenal hes a shutdown D and can play heavy minutes Jones is a better skater but a work in progress.

        In this situation edmonton would have too many RD and need to move one for an asset or something they need which is a goaltender. I think edmonton would overpay to get a good goalie at this point.


        Well, both of you are assuming that Lagesson's learning curve will be the same as Jones'. Jones is a year younger, is under team control for one year more, and by the end of this season, will have twice as many games' experience as Lagesson.

        Obviously, we come down on opposite sides of this gamble, but I'd rather base my decision on 100 games than fewer than 50.
        Mar. 15, 2021 at 12:54 p.m.
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        Quoting: McDavidFan97
        I'm starting to think Nuge gets around $6.25mill x 6 or 7 years. Rishaug just said talks extension talks have resumed and were previously in the $6mill - $6.5mill range. In Holland's midseason press conference he was clear that he didn't want to sign him to a deal that doesn't make sense for the team given the flat cap. You also have to consider the fact that he has 9 5v5 points and is a -1 in 30 games on McD's wing for the majority. I like the guy and he means a lot to the team and fanbase, but I'm starting to highly doubt he gets $7mill. I know I'll get lit up on here for saying this


        Case and point he hasn't exactly been stellar as a center against Ottawa and Vancouver. He's a complimentary winger who kills penalties and powerplays. That being said somebody will pay him to be a first line center and drastically overpay.
        Mar. 15, 2021 at 12:57 p.m.
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        Quoting: OldNYIfan
        Well, both of you are assuming that Lagesson's learning curve will be the same as Jones'. Jones is a year younger, is under team control for one year more, and by the end of this season, will have twice as many games' experience as Lagesson.

        Obviously, we come down on opposite sides of this gamble, but I'd rather base my decision on 100 games than fewer than 50.


        Totally up to each and ever GM to decide that. I just look at what we have for depth in the system. I think the closest guy to Lagesson is Samurukov (Kind of) but we have Broberg coming soon that will destroy Jones. The good thing about Jones is he can play both sides. I think most would pick Jones to protect as well.
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        Mar. 15, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
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        Quoting: OldNYIfan
        Well, both of you are assuming that Lagesson's learning curve will be the same as Jones'. Jones is a year younger, is under team control for one year more, and by the end of this season, will have twice as many games' experience as Lagesson.

        Obviously, we come down on opposite sides of this gamble, but I'd rather base my decision on 100 games than fewer than 50.


        Edmonton has Samorukov and Broberg coming down the pipeline they are going to go with who's better right now. A huge issue was net front defending and Lagesson has solved that by being hard to play against. Jones played himself out of the lineup by making mistakes on the PK not blocking shots or getting in shooting lanes.

        I'm just going with what seems to be working and what the coach likes. i could get behind protecting Jones as well.
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        Mar. 15, 2021 at 1:02 p.m.
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        Case and point he hasn't exactly been stellar as a center against Ottawa and Vancouver. He's a complimentary winger who kills penalties and powerplays. That being said somebody will pay him to be a first line center and drastically overpay.


        I'm sure a team will be willing to overpay drastically, but I don't think that necessarily means the Oilers need to be the highest bidder. If Nuge signs an extension before hitting free agency he won't know his market value anyways
        Mar. 15, 2021 at 6:19 p.m.
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