Forums/Armchair-GM

Please no Eichel

Created by: xxToothxx
Initial Creation Date: May 15, 2021
Published: May 15, 2021
Team: 2021-22 New York Rangers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Gauthier, Julien2$850,000
Shesterkin, Igor4$5,500,000
Hájek, Libor2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Coleman, Blake2$2,500,000
Lundqvist, Henrik2$1,500,000
Chara, Zdeno2$1,500,000
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. Jenner, Boone
CBJ
  1. Chytil, Filip [RFA Rights]
2.
NYR
  1. Reaves, Ryan
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (NJD)
VGK
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar
Additional Details:
MAF is FA after season.
3.
NYR
  1. Kuznetsov, Evgeny ($1,250,000 retained)
WSH
  1. Strome, Ryan
  2. Deangelo, Anthony
Additional Details:
Hopefully Kutzy can match Stromes play.
Buyouts
  • Henrik Lundqvist: $1,500,000
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,433,333
  • Dan Girardi: $1,111,111
  • Brad Richards: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
NYR
NJD
NYR
BUF
NYR
LAK
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$70,362,301$0$8,300,000$11,137,699
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYR
Lafrenière, Alexis
$925,000
LW
RFA - 2
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
WSH
Kuznetsov, Evgeny
$6,550,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
CBJ
Jenner, Boone
$3,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
NYR
Gauthier, Julien
$850,000
RW
RFA - 1
Coleman, Blake
$2,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 6
NYR
Blackwell, Colin
$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
VGK
Reaves, Ryan
$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
$750,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 3
NYR
Fox, Adam
$925,000
RD
UFA - 1
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
$5,500,000
G
UFA - 4
NYR
Miller, K'Andre
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
Lundqvist, Henrik
$1,500,000
G
UFA
NYR
Jones, Zachary
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
Chara, Zdeno
$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
NYR
Hájek, Libor
$900,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYR
Kinkaid, Keith
$825,000
G
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
NYR
Bitetto, Anthony
$737,500 ($0)
LD
UFA - 1

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
May 15, 2021 at 5:46 p.m.
#1
Joined: Jan. 2017
Posts: 4,239
Likes: 2,046
Jenner is a pending ufa, not giving up Chytil for him. Kuzy seems like a distraction. I like the Vegas one.
xxToothxx and Fox_Czar_Cup liked this.
May 15, 2021 at 5:47 p.m.
#2
Banned
Joined: Jun. 2016
Posts: 33,053
Likes: 8,998
Kuznetsov @ $1,250,000 retention > > > Strome+DeAngelo Stromes value is no more then a 3rd round pick and DeAngelo right now has 0% value. So why would the Caps make this trade?
Devil1122 and Eli liked this.
May 15, 2021 at 5:50 p.m.
#3
Thread Starter
Joined: Jul. 2016
Posts: 628
Likes: 86
Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Kuznetsov $1,250,000 retention > > > Strome+DeAngelo Stromes value is no more then a 3rd round pick and DeAngelo right now has 0% value. So why would the Caps make this trade?



They are done with Kutzy this offseason.
He is on way out... with that cap hit Wash will be fortunate to get a Strome to plug in at 2C.
Im outside DC, lots of trouble following Kutzy... he is gone.
May 15, 2021 at 5:51 p.m.
#4
Thread Starter
Joined: Jul. 2016
Posts: 628
Likes: 86
Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Kuznetsov $1,250,000 retention > > > Strome+DeAngelo Stromes value is no more then a 3rd round pick and DeAngelo right now has 0% value. So why would the Caps make this trade?


Lol... Kutzy is just a step above DeAngelo...
Kutzy has lots of issues in DC, the coke is just the start.
HOCKEYBOY448 liked this.
May 15, 2021 at 5:58 p.m.
#5
Banned
Joined: Jun. 2016
Posts: 33,053
Likes: 8,998
Quoting: xxToothxx
Lol... Kutzy is just a step above DeAngelo...
Kutzy has lots of issues in DC, the coke is just the start.


Yeah so what makes you think the Rangers have any interest in a coke sniffing Kutzy? Aren't they getting rid of DeAngelo due to his racist remarks. And yet Kutzy has more issues then DeAngelo. Doubt and sane GM takes on Kutzy and his distractions.
May 15, 2021 at 6:06 p.m.
#6
Thread Starter
Joined: Jul. 2016
Posts: 628
Likes: 86
Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Yeah so what makes you think the Rangers have any interest in a coke sniffing Kutzy? Aren't they getting rid of DeAngelo due to his racist remarks. And yet Kutzy has more issues then DeAngelo. Doubt and sane GM takes on Kutzy and his distractions.


Obviously hoping Kutzy can turn it around, thus the buy low.... duh.
There is rumored to be a strong Russian community in NY he may find a better comfort level.
DeAngelo fits right in in DC and the Caps are in desperate need of skill on blueline after Carlson.
So Wash, gets rid of known issues in Kutzy, replaces him with solid 25 yr old 2C and add 25 yr old former 1st round pick , and more skilled than any D in DC, save Carlson.
NY takes the chance Kutzy can regain the form and promise of what 2/3 years ago.....
May 15, 2021 at 6:07 p.m.
#7
Joined: Jan. 2017
Posts: 4,239
Likes: 2,046
Quoting: xxToothxx
Obviously hoping Kutzy can turn it around, thus the buy low.... duh.
There is rumored to be a strong Russian community in NY he may find a better comfort level.
DeAngelo fits right in in DC and the Caps are in desperate need of skill on blueline after Carlson.
So Wash, gets rid of known issues in Kutzy, replaces him with solid 25 yr old 2C and add 25 yr old former 1st round pick , and more skilled than any D in DC, save Carlson.
NY takes the chance Kutzy can regain the form and promise of what 2/3 years ago.....


Yeah but is Kuzy someone we want around so many young kids with his drug issues.
May 15, 2021 at 6:08 p.m.
#8
Who adds what?
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 13,677
Likes: 2,702
A guy with five 50 point seasons, two 70 point seasons, an 80 point season, and a 30 point postseason for a guy with two 50 point seasons and a defenseman who went -6 in his last game before he beat up his own goalie?

Hard pass.
May 15, 2021 at 6:09 p.m.
#9
Thread Starter
Joined: Jul. 2016
Posts: 628
Likes: 86
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
Yeah but is Kuzy someone we want around so many young kids with his drug issues.


Not sure what you mean exactly... he gets change of scenery to change.... Kutzy can ski his way right out of the league if he wishes.
But the move is to help him change not enable him to poison the whole room.
May 15, 2021 at 6:11 p.m.
#10
Joined: Jan. 2017
Posts: 4,239
Likes: 2,046
Quoting: xxToothxx
Not sure what you mean exactly... he gets change of scenery to change.... Kutzy can ski his way right out of the league if he wishes.
But the move is to help him change not enable him to poison the whole room.


I wouldn’t bring someone in with those issues period. That’s a damn big problem to bring into the locker room. Next thing he’ll get Laf and Fox doing coke.
xxToothxx liked this.
May 15, 2021 at 6:13 p.m.
#11
Thread Starter
Joined: Jul. 2016
Posts: 628
Likes: 86
Quoting: Eli
A guy with five 50 point seasons, two 70 point seasons, an 80 point season, and a 30 point postseason for a guy with two 50 point seasons and a defenseman who went -6 in his last game before he beat up his own goalie?

Hard pass.


Ok so you are slow on the understanding.
Its not about last however many years its about the next few.
Kutzy is out in DC reguardless... hes going. He was garbage this year and they know it in DC.

He is an incredibly hard sell with that cap hit.

Always amazed at having to state the obvious....
HOCKEYBOY448 liked this.
May 15, 2021 at 6:16 p.m.
#12
Thread Starter
Joined: Jul. 2016
Posts: 628
Likes: 86
Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
I wouldn’t bring someone in with those issues period. That’s a damn big problem to bring into the locker room. Next thing he’ll get Laf and Fox doing coke.


Also rumored to be a strong Russian Mafia in NY, maybe Panarin can get a few guys to 'watch over' Kutzy. Hahaha
HOCKEYBOY448 liked this.
May 15, 2021 at 6:17 p.m.
#13
Joined: Jan. 2017
Posts: 4,239
Likes: 2,046
Quoting: xxToothxx
Also rumored to be a strong Russian Mafia in NY, maybe Panarin can get a few guys to 'watch over' Kutzy. Hahaha


I wouldn’t doubt it.
May 15, 2021 at 6:19 p.m.
#14
Who adds what?
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 13,677
Likes: 2,702
Edited May 15, 2021 at 6:30 p.m.
Quoting: xxToothxx
Ok so you are slow on the understanding.
Its not about last however many years its about the next few.
Kutzy is out in DC reguardless... hes going. He was garbage this year and they know it in DC.

He is an incredibly hard sell with that cap hit.

Always amazed at having to state the obvious....


He missed time this year for an early injury, covid protocol, more covid exposure protocol, and a coach-issued suspension for arriving late at a team meeting. In the months of March and April, when he played pretty steadily, he was a top 20 center.

He tried drugs, and said he regrets it, which puts him in line with about 60% of Americans. DeAngelo tried beating up teammates. But all that aside, you're dumping millions in cap on WSH when they're trying to give Ovechkin and Samsonov raises, but they have no big expiring deals. It is not happening as written, no matter how much you try to insult the guy.


eta: while Deangelo's skill would be welcome anywhere they think they can get him to play some defense, WSH has Orlov and Schultz for secondary blue line offense. Orlov started slow, but since March he and Fox are tied for 4th among defenders in even strength points, and Schultz is tied for 24th. If the top 30 are scoring like #1 defensemen, they kinda have three of them, but if Deangelo can get back to that level, then of course there's a price where any team would take him. This just is not a workable deal for WSH under the flat cap, and I don't personally like the value. (2nd edit) but I still agree that some team could buy low on Kuznetsov while the coach is giving him a hard time and benching him. I also agree he's a good fit for NYR, and would be waaaaay cheaper than Eichel for the same skill level or possibly even a little better, plus a common first language with NYR's two top scoring wings. The fit is 100% there. Revise, or look back at the dozens of Kuznetsov to NYR posts Rangers fans made last offseason for ideas?
May 15, 2021 at 6:31 p.m.
#15
aecliptic
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 1,712
Likes: 640
Quoting: xxToothxx
Obviously hoping Kutzy can turn it around, thus the buy low.... duh.
There is rumored to be a strong Russian community in NY he may find a better comfort level.
DeAngelo fits right in in DC and the Caps are in desperate need of skill on blueline after Carlson.
So Wash, gets rid of known issues in Kutzy, replaces him with solid 25 yr old 2C and add 25 yr old former 1st round pick , and more skilled than any D in DC, save Carlson.
NY takes the chance Kutzy can regain the form and promise of what 2/3 years ago.....


Why exactly are we trading for Kuzy in the first place? Strome clearly has great chemistry with the guys hes playing with. Is Kuzy gonna somehow outproduce someone that already scoring at a near ppg pace?

What else is Kuzy bringing? Faceoffs? No. Physicality? No. Defense? No. Trading Strome for Kuzy is about as lateral a move as the team can get, with one exception. The players love Strome, they always have great things to say about his leadership and how he is in the locker room.

Going after Kuzy is the absolute wrong move for this franchise.

Jenner, Im a huge fan of getting Jenner, however, not for Chytil. I also like a move for Reaves.
xxToothxx and Fox_Czar_Cup liked this.
May 15, 2021 at 6:40 p.m.
#16
Who adds what?
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 13,677
Likes: 2,702
Quoting: aecliptic
Why exactly are we trading for Kuzy in the first place? Strome clearly has great chemistry with the guys hes playing with. Is Kuzy gonna somehow outproduce someone that already scoring at a near ppg pace?

What else is Kuzy bringing? Faceoffs? No. Physicality? No. Defense? No. Trading Strome for Kuzy is about as lateral a move as the team can get, with one exception. The players love Strome, they always have great things to say about his leadership and how he is in the locker room.

Going after Kuzy is the absolute wrong move for this franchise.

Jenner, Im a huge fan of getting Jenner, however, not for Chytil. I also like a move for Reaves.


Strome was on a 69 point pace this year. Kuznetsov has three seasons and one postseason better than that, and had stretches this year where he was better than that. He comes from the same town as Panarin, and I think the two of them could play well with Buchnevich or Kravtsov because of a common first langugage. But you're right: he tried drugs. And only 60% of American adults have done that. To the other 40%, that could be a PR issue, so WSH is likely to sell cheap on him. But they're not taking on extra cap under a flat cap to do it. They're not retaining. Strome, 50% ADA, and a good RHD prospect might get it done. But the above would mean WSH couldn't keep Ovechkin. Can you think of any reason they consider that?
May 15, 2021 at 6:49 p.m.
#17
aecliptic
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 1,712
Likes: 640
Quoting: Eli
Strome was on a 69 point pace this year. Kuznetsov has three seasons and one postseason better than that, and had stretches this year where he was better than that. He comes from the same town as Panarin, and I think the two of them could play well with Buchnevich or Kravtsov because of a common first langugage. But you're right: he tried drugs. And only 60% of American adults have done that. To the other 40%, that could be a PR issue, so WSH is likely to sell cheap on him. But they're not taking on extra cap under a flat cap to do it. They're not retaining. Strome, 50% ADA, and a good RHD prospect might get it done. But the above would mean WSH couldn't keep Ovechkin. Can you think of any reason they consider that?


Kuzy is too one dimensional. For a team trying to get stronger, more physical and assertive... hes exactly the player theyre not looking for.

Personally, my choice would be to go after Hertl for the 2C.
May 15, 2021 at 6:49 p.m.
#18
GM_MZ_WSH
Joined: Apr. 2018
Posts: 136
Likes: 62
Nobody wants DeAngelo

except maybe Winnipeg their defense is trash
May 15, 2021 at 6:50 p.m.
#19
Who adds what?
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 13,677
Likes: 2,702
Quoting: aecliptic
Kuzy is too one dimensional. For a team trying to get stronger, more physical and assertive... hes exactly the player theyre not looking for.

Personally, my choice would be to go after Hertl for the 2C.


Well, sure, but you probably also want a #1C. smile
May 15, 2021 at 6:52 p.m.
#20
Aviation go brrrrrrr
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 12,824
Likes: 6,556
Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Kuznetsov @ $1,250,000 retention > > > Strome+DeAngelo Stromes value is no more then a 3rd round pick and DeAngelo right now has 0% value. So why would the Caps make this trade?


Strome is easily worth a late first according to trades we recently saw.
May 15, 2021 at 6:55 p.m.
#21
aecliptic
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 1,712
Likes: 640
Quoting: Eli
Well, sure, but you probably also want a #1C. smile


Uh, I clearly said my target would be Hertl for the 2C spot. My ideal (realistic) line up would be Zib / Hertl / Jenner / Barron (Rooney) down the middle.
May 15, 2021 at 6:55 p.m.
#22
Who adds what?
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 13,677
Likes: 2,702
Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Strome is easily worth a late first according to trades we recently saw.


Deadline trades. Can you imagine what Kuznetsov would have brought in at the deadline?
May 15, 2021 at 7:00 p.m.
#23
Pete
Joined: Jan. 2016
Posts: 1,088
Likes: 129
Like the Chara contract. Just its length is little bit short. wink
xxToothxx and Fox_Czar_Cup liked this.
May 15, 2021 at 7:08 p.m.
#24
aecliptic
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 1,712
Likes: 640
Oh look.. Kuzy and Samsonov are on COVID protocol because they cant stop with the bs hanging out and breaking rules going into game 1 of the playoffs. Yup, thats exactly the character guy I want on a young emerging team.
xxToothxx and Fox_Czar_Cup liked this.
May 15, 2021 at 7:21 p.m.
#25
LafreneiretoKravtsov
Joined: Apr. 2016
Posts: 2,075
Likes: 639
Still have the issue of your top 2Cs being “soft”, inconsistent & enigmatic offensively.
xxToothxx liked this.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Remove Option
Submit Poll