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Created by: RClay321
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 29, 2021
Published: May 29, 2021
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Free Agent Signings
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1$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,000,000
1$1,500,000
5$5,750,000
1$1,250,000
1$1,500,000
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SEA
  1. Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]
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TOR
  1. Boqvist, Jesper
  2. Merkley, Nick [RFA Rights]
  3. Wood, Miles
  4. 2021 1st round pick (NYI)
  5. 2022 4th round pick (EDM)
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2021
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2022
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2023
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23$81,500,000$80,926,783$0$400,000$573,217
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
$5,750,000$5,750,000
LW
UFA - 5
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
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UFA - 2
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4

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May 29, 2021 at 11:38 p.m.
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Lol we'll take that
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May 29, 2021 at 11:39 p.m.
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Lol we'll take that


yeah, I probably should have made it the Isles 1st
May 29, 2021 at 11:43 p.m.
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neat! thanks!
May 29, 2021 at 11:43 p.m.
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So many things wrong here
May 29, 2021 at 11:44 p.m.
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Bro how does a young top 5 winger in the league get that small of a return????
May 29, 2021 at 11:47 p.m.
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Quoting: GirouxFanclub
Bro how does a young top 5 winger in the league get that small of a return????


0 goals in 16 straight playoff games and takes the dumbest penalty cause he panicked for whatever reason.

Not saying his value is this low, but with his contract and back to back poor playoff performances, it ain't high at all.
May 29, 2021 at 11:49 p.m.
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That’s a horrendous trade for us
May 29, 2021 at 11:51 p.m.
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May 29, 2021 at 11:52 p.m.
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Quoting: TrueCanuck
0 goals in 16 straight playoff games and takes the dumbest penalty cause he panicked for whatever reason.

Not saying his value is this low, but with his contract and back to back poor playoff performances, it ain't high at all.


"it ain't high at all" do you know how stupid you sound. A young franchise winger who is worth the money he is getting payed and has term on his contract. Marner is one of the best play drivers in the league and is also great defensively so to say his value isn't high at all is the stupidest thing I have ever heard
May 29, 2021 at 11:52 p.m.
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L:OL
May 30, 2021 at 12:02 a.m.
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Quoting: GirouxFanclub
Bro how does a young top 5 winger in the league get that small of a return????


how is he a top 5 winger, with that price tag he should be better
May 30, 2021 at 12:02 a.m.
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"it ain't high at all" do you know how stupid you sound. A young franchise winger who is worth the money he is getting payed and has term on his contract. Marner is one of the best play drivers in the league and is also great defensively so to say his value isn't high at all is the stupidest thing I have ever heard


Perform when you team needs it the most, or shut up. What has Marner done this playoffs or last year? Hasn't scored. You can sit there and say he's one of the best play driving drivers in the league but hey guess what? Come play off time, that stuff don't matter. Either finish the play and produce or you're not doing your job. & when you're paid almost $11M per season to do it, I'm sorry but underlying numbers don't mean anything in playoffs. Produce or go home.

It's not that his value is low, it's just not gonna be what people expect it to be. Back to back weak playoff performances and a high contract make it incredibly hard to trade him, so it lowers his value. that's how the league works.
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May 30, 2021 at 12:04 a.m.
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"it ain't high at all" do you know how stupid you sound. A young franchise winger who is worth the money he is getting payed and has term on his contract. Marner is one of the best play drivers in the league and is also great defensively so to say his value isn't high at all is the stupidest thing I have ever heard


he is not worth the money he makes and is not great defensively, middle of the pack as far as def is concerned
May 30, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.
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Quoting: RClay321
he is not worth the money he makes and is not great defensively, middle of the pack as far as def is concerned


Actually, he has been good defensively. That's about all he's done right this playoffs.
May 30, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.
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Quoting: RClay321
how is he a top 5 winger, with that price tag he should be better


You mean top 5 young winger? Not top 5 winger whos also young? Right?
May 30, 2021 at 12:09 a.m.
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Quoting: RClay321
he is not worth the money he makes and is not great defensively, middle of the pack as far as def is concerned


no hes great defensively and he is arguably a top 10 player and he's making top 10 player money
May 30, 2021 at 12:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
You mean top 5 young winger? Not top 5 winger whos also young? Right?


Quoting: GirouxFanclub
no hes great defensively and he is arguably a top 10 player and he's making top 10 player money


either way, when you make almost 11 mil a year you need to be a top 10 player consistently. Landeskog, Rantanen, both Tkachuk boys, Pastrnak, Svechnikov, Kucherov, Huberdeau, Marchand, Panarin, are all better wing options imo for different reasons (mostly cap hit). I would even throw in Kakko, Kaprizov, and Laf as well. Kane too except for his age.

This is not even including centers and defensemen. So not a top 10 player
May 30, 2021 at 12:23 a.m.
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either way, when you make almost 11 mil a year you need to be a top 10 player consistently. Landeskog, Rantanen, both Tkachuk boys, Pastrnak, Svechnikov, Kucherov, Huberdeau, Marchand, Panarin, are all better wing options imo for different reasons (mostly cap hit). I would even throw in Kakko, Kaprizov, and Laf as well. Kane too except for his age.

This is not even including centers and defensemen. So not a top 10 player


Did Mark Stone dirty, also svech is not in that tier yet
May 30, 2021 at 12:24 a.m.
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Did Mark Stone dirty, also svech is not in that tier yet


you're right I am sure I forgot a few more. For the cap hit difference I think he is
May 30, 2021 at 12:25 a.m.
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Quoting: RClay321
either way, when you make almost 11 mil a year you need to be a top 10 player consistently. Landeskog, Rantanen, both Tkachuk boys, Pastrnak, Svechnikov, Kucherov, Huberdeau, Marchand, Panarin, are all better wing options imo for different reasons (mostly cap hit). I would even throw in Kakko, Kaprizov, and Laf as well. Kane too except for his age.

This is not even including centers and defensemen. So not a top 10 player


The only players you named that are better are kucherov marhcand and panarin. And I didn't say he is a top 10 player I sad arguably but he's 100% a top 15 player
May 30, 2021 at 12:29 a.m.
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The only players you named that are better are kucherov marhcand and panarin. And I didn't say he is a top 10 player I sad arguably but he's 100% a top 15 player


lol you are crazy. All the players I listed can get the same production playing next to Mathews, but all cost much less except Kane and Panarin. If you are going to make 10.9 mil a year you are going to have to be held at a higher standard, especially if you don't play center
May 30, 2021 at 12:30 a.m.
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Quoting: GirouxFanclub
The only players you named that are better are kucherov marhcand and panarin. And I didn't say he is a top 10 player I sad arguably but he's 100% a top 15 player


No way Marner is better than Stone
May 30, 2021 at 12:35 a.m.
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lol you are crazy. All the players I listed can get the same production playing next to Mathews, but all cost much less except Kane and Panarin. If you are going to make 10.9 mil a year you are going to have to be held at a higher standard, especially if you don't play center


My top 10 winger list to gives some context; 1. Marchand 2. Stone 3. Panarin 4. Kucherov (those 4 are all interchangeable) 5. Marner 6. Rantanen 7. Pastrnak 8. Huberdeau 9. Guentzel 10. Kane.

And about your point about him playing with matthews almost all the players in my top 10 play with an elite linemate. Only one that doesn't is Kane. And Marner is the best playmaker in the league (panarin is close) and Matthews is the best goal score so to me they compliment each other and feed off each other.
May 30, 2021 at 12:36 a.m.
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Quoting: GirouxFanclub
no hes great defensively and he is arguably a top 10 player and he's making top 10 player money


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The only players you named that are better are kucherov marhcand and panarin. And I didn't say he is a top 10 player I sad arguably but he's 100% a top 15 player


just saying......going to change it to top 20 next. When you clear the puck over the glass on a powerplay with no pressure on you, you can't be considered great defensively
May 30, 2021 at 12:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
No way Marner is better than Stone


did he name Stone? no he didn't look at recent post of the top 10 wingers
 
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