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Created by: JetsFan1995
Team: 2021-22 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 1, 2021
Published: Jun. 1, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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So the Jets have 2 Dmen that should be kept, bar none, in Pionk and Demelo. People aren’t going to like reading this, but with 6 years and $6.25M left in his deal, the organization should leave morrissey unprotected as he hasn’t been worth that price and it would be an awfully big bet for Seattle to take him. If they did, $6.25M becomes available. If they didn’t, you’ve protected everyone. Now they won’t do this so Demelo-Pionk-Morrissey get protected. Logan Stanley becomes the available Dman they consider taking, which is fine.

With the F’s. The Jets are likely to leave one of Copp or Appleton exposed. Given Copp’s 1 year away from UFA, moving him pre-expansion draft may not be a bad idea for some assets. I’m a huge Copp fan, but arbitration players very rarely sign long term with the team that took them there. Detroit makes sense for Copp as he has Michigan ties, can see an elevated role and have space to add him to their protected list

In this scenario I would not move assets to protect Logan Stanley.

The Pairings are designed by best fit; and ice time would vary depending on game flow. Hamilton would be perfect to bring heinola up with. Samberg is the better Forbort fit with Pionk. And we know how well Demelo works with Morrissey.

Side note: Maurice was canned and Boudreaux brought in
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$9,500,000
2$1,500,000
1$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
1$800,000
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (EDM)
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (NYR)
DET
  1. Copp, Andrew [RFA Rights]
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Pre-expansion draft
2.
WPG
SEA
  1. Stanley, Logan [RFA Rights]
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Expansion selection
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,898,813$145,122$1,657,500$2,601,187

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, C
RFA - 3
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 5
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$817,500$817,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333
LD
RFA - 3
$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 7
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$6,166,667$6,166,667
G
UFA - 3
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 7
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000$250K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,291,667$5,291,667
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
UFA - 1
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$741,667$741,667 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$50,000$50K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RD
UFA - 1

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Jun. 2, 2021 at 8:13 a.m.
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Quoting: JetsFan1995
Very good management. You’re far too focused on the handedness of a position rather than total impact and value


No I am focused on the impact that having that much money in that position. Roughly 23% of your cap. All for Pionk getting that amount but as good as he is Hamilton would be too rich for WPG.
Jun. 2, 2021 at 8:38 a.m.
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Curious your thought on price


I’d give one of those second rounders (NY/EDM) + a minor kicker like a 4th or 5th round pick.
Jun. 2, 2021 at 10:14 a.m.
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Quoting: JetsFan1995
The Jets left handed depth far outweighed the right side. Protecting a 23 year old... 3rd pairing Dman over a top 4 RHD signed cheap for years to come would be Peter Chiarelli level of mismanagement


Thinking that DeMelo is anything more then an overpaid 3rd pairing dman is Chiarelli level logic.
Jun. 2, 2021 at 10:23 a.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Thinking that DeMelo is anything more then an overpaid 3rd pairing dman is Chiarelli level logic.


DeMelo isn’t overpaid he’s pretty good for someone drafted in the 6TH ROUND
Jun. 2, 2021 at 10:57 a.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
DeMelo isn’t overpaid he’s pretty good for someone drafted in the 6TH ROUND


Who cares what round he was drafted in, he's nothing special.
Jun. 2, 2021 at 12:51 p.m.
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Quoting: BStinson
I’d give one of those second rounders (NY/EDM) + a minor kicker like a 4th or 5th round pick.


A 2nd and a 4th makes sense
Jun. 2, 2021 at 12:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Wpgman
No I am focused on the impact that having that much money in that position. Roughly 23% of your cap. All for Pionk getting that amount but as good as he is Hamilton would be too rich for WPG.


The entire idea around building a team under the cap is maximizing talent within that limits. You’re looking far too much at “% spent” at a position, rather than the overall value you’re getting.

You also willingly spent $4M on two guys that aren’t NHL caliber regulars anymore in Zajac and Hamonic.
Jun. 2, 2021 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Thinking that DeMelo is anything more then an overpaid 3rd pairing dman is Chiarelli level logic.


You have been on this site hyping up Tucker Poolman, Derek Forbort and Logan Stanley. None of which can carry Demelo’s jock strap on the ice.

It’s the very definition of Chiarelli logic
Jun. 2, 2021 at 2:09 p.m.
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Quoting: JetsFan1995
You have been on this site hyping up Tucker Poolman, Derek Forbort and Logan Stanley. None of which can carry Demelo’s jock strap on the ice.

It’s the very definition of Chiarelli logic


Yes I'm a big hyper of Poolman.. Lol

DeMelo looks like he's about to fall down when he transitions to skate backwards, I don't see what the fascination is with him but I get it, fancy stats say he's good so he must be.
Jun. 2, 2021 at 3:11 p.m.
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Yes I'm a big hyper of Poolman.. Lol

DeMelo looks like he's about to fall down when he transitions to skate backwards, I don't see what the fascination is with him but I get it, fancy stats say he's good so he must be.


Nothing says “I know hockey” like “he looks like he’s going to fall in my eyes, so he must be bad”
Jun. 2, 2021 at 3:58 p.m.
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Quoting: JetsFan1995
Nothing says “I know hockey” like “he looks like he’s going to fall in my eyes, so he must be bad”


Charts and graphs tell all I know I know
Jun. 2, 2021 at 4:09 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Charts and graphs tell all I know I know


Results certainly tell more than “I don’t like how he pivots”

It’s the new “Tobi enstrom’s stick is too long so he’s bad”
Jun. 2, 2021 at 4:32 p.m.
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Quoting: JetsFan1995
Results certainly tell more than “I don’t like how he pivots”

It’s the new “Tobi enstrom’s stick is too long so he’s bad”


Enstrom was a great player!
Jun. 2, 2021 at 4:48 p.m.
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Enstrom was a great player!


That he was! Miss him greatly
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Jun. 2, 2021 at 8:28 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Thinking that DeMelo is anything more then an overpaid 3rd pairing dman is Chiarelli level logic.


We just witnessed 20 minutes of what this D core looks like without Demelo.

And what Logan Stanley’s limitations as a player are.

Tune in for more!
Jun. 2, 2021 at 11:33 p.m.
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Quoting: JetsFan1995
We just witnessed 20 minutes of what this D core looks like without Demelo.

And what Logan Stanley’s limitations as a player are.

Tune in for more!


This team can't score, that's it's biggest problem, even with your boy DeMelo it's a bottom 5 defense in the league, like one of the worst.
 
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