Hoping Holland Figures It Out

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Created by: CementHead27

Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 4, 2021

Published: Jun. 4, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I think it’s safe to say two season in and we have been underwhelming. I can’t put my thumb on it. Holland has made one really bad trade (Marino) and one pretty bad trade (Neal). Now there have been some decent signings and I like the last two drafts but it’s still a little worrying since I thought we’d be in a better spot. Tippett is a good coach but I can’t stand having the two big guns on the same line. That can’t happen next year.

This team would have a balance of youth and experience. Staal, Getzlaf, Coleman, and Saad have all lifted the cup and they can all still play (especially Saad). We don’t sacrifice anyone who’s young and any good in an unnecessary trade. It’s also worth the buyout to dump Neal and Koskinen. So is the Seattle deal enough to take Bear? Would Dubas take Kassian?

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Kahun, Dominik	2	$1,250,000
Khaira, Jujhar	1	$1,250,000
Yamamoto, Kailer	3	$2,350,000
Shore, Devin	2	$850,000
Woll, Joseph	3	$850,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Smith, Mike	2	$1,750,000
Mrázek, Petr	3	$3,000,000
Hamilton, Dougie	6	$8,500,000
Staal, Eric	2	$1,200,000
Coleman, Blake	4	$3,200,000
Saad, Brandon	3	$6,200,000
Ceci, Cody	2	$3,350,000
Ryan, Bobby	1	$1,500,000
Getzlaf, Ryan	2	$1,350,000
Schenn, Luke	1	$900,000

Trades

EDM

2022 5th round pick (OTT)

OTT

Turris, Kyle

EDM

Woll, Joseph [RFA Rights]
2021 6th round pick (TOR)

TOR

Kassian, Zack ($1,200,000 retained)

Additional Details:

I’ll miss him but it’s time to go. The Leafs are softer than puppy poo and Kassian at 2 million is a gift for them

EDM

SEA

Bear, Ethan
Lagesson, William
Savoie, Carter [Reserve List]
2022 5th round pick (OTT)

Additional Details:

Hopefully that’s enough to dump Bear

Buyouts

Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000
James Neal: $1,916,667
Mikko Koskinen: $1,500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Milan Lucic: $750,000 (12.5%)
Zack Kassian: $1,200,000 (0%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
27	$81,500,000	$80,691,839	$669,339	$2,277,500	$808,161

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Saad, Brandon $6,200,000$6,200,000 LW, RW UFA - 5	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C UFA - 5	Puljujärvi, Jesse $1,175,000$1,175,000 RW UFA - 1
Staal, Eric $1,200,000$1,200,000 C UFA	Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW UFA - 4	Yamamoto, Kailer $2,350,000$2,350,000 RW RFA - 1
Coleman, Blake $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW, LW UFA - 6	Getzlaf, Ryan $1,350,000$1,350,000 C UFA - 1	Ryan, Bobby $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA
Kahun, Dominik $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, RW, C UFA	Khaira, Jujhar $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Archibald, Josh $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
		Safin, Ostap $775,000$775,000 ($87,500$88K) RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Broberg, Philip $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) LD RFA - 3	Hamilton, Dougie $8,500,000$8,500,000 RD UFA - 7	Mrázek, Petr $3,000,000$3,000,000 G UFA - 3
Nurse, Darnell $5,600,000$5,600,000 LD UFA - 1	Bouchard, Evan $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 2	Smith, Mike $1,750,000$1,750,000 G UFA - 2
Russell, Kris $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Ceci, Cody $3,350,000$3,350,000 RD UFA - 4

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Holloway, Dylan $925,000$925,000 ($400,000$400K) LW, C RFA - 3		Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2
McLeod, Ryan $834,167$834,167 ($57,500$58K) C RFA - 1
Lavoie, Raphael $870,000$870,000 ($32,500$32K) RW, C RFA - 2
Jones, Caleb $850,000$850,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Schenn, Luke $900,000$900,000 RD UFA - 2
Woll, Joseph $850,000$850,000 G RFA - 1

Jun. 4, 2021 at 8:05 p.m.

Bluetomorrow83

Joined: Feb. 2018

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How were the Marino and Neal trades bad? Marino clearly told the team he wasn't going to sign here so Holland got what he could. Neal for Lucic was a great trade Oilers got 19 goals from Neal last year, and he has a much better contract to buyout. Losing the 3rd was a **** choice by the league with prorating.

Thinking you have to "dump" Bear is insane especially when you go ahead a paid Ceci 3.4M

Jun. 4, 2021 at 8:14 p.m.

TCMonkey

Hockey 1st Sens 2nd

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Ottawa declines. We're pretty good for pivots: Norris, White, Pinto, Tierney, (maybe) Stutzle, Nick Paul, Clark Bishop... would prefer any of them in the line up over adding Turris.

Jun. 4, 2021 at 8:15 p.m.

CementHead27

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Grande Prairie AB

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Quoting: Bluetomorrow83

Ceci had a very good year in Pittsburgh and has proven he can play in this league. Bear hasn’t

Jun. 4, 2021 at 8:27 p.m.

uphere

Simpleton

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I agree with the first comment, it's simply not fair to fault Holland for making the best of a few bad situations. I'll add that I don't think moving Turris is a top concern for the Oilers. If he doesn't make the team next season, most of his salary can be buried in Bakersfield. His cap hit would be $525,000, for one season.

Jun. 4, 2021 at 8:34 p.m.

CementHead27

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Quoting: TCMonkey

Ottawa declines. We're pretty good for pivots: Norris, White, Pinto, Tierney, (maybe) Stutzle, Nick Paul, Clark Bishop... would prefer any of them in the line up over adding Turris.

I know he’s a favourite out there and thought there’d be interest if the price was cheap

Jun. 4, 2021 at 8:35 p.m.

CementHead27

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Quoting: uphere

I’d be fine with him as a 4th line centre. I just thought Ottawa would have some interest for a cheap price

Jun. 4, 2021 at 9:13 p.m.

Boomer125

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Kassian for free isn't a gift let alone this, yes that's what TO needs Kassian winning pedigree

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Jun. 4, 2021 at 9:21 p.m.

CementHead27

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Grande Prairie AB

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Quoting: Boomer125

Kassian for free isn't a gift let alone this, yes that's what TO needs Kassian winning pedigree

Considering you have a soft little team that gets pushed around you should be jumping for joy to have him

Jun. 4, 2021 at 9:24 p.m.

westcoastleaf

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Quoting: Boomer125

Kassian for free isn't a gift let alone this, yes that's what TO needs Kassian winning pedigree

he'd be one expensive 4th liner, that's for sure.

Jun. 4, 2021 at 9:24 p.m.

#10

PerpetuallySad

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This is tough, Bear isn’t a dump by any stretch. And would immediately be selected if exposed.
Russell is 7D max and playing Broberg on the top pair after he struggled in the SHL is tough.

Jun. 5, 2021 at 6:56 a.m.

#11

CementHead27

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Quoting: westcoastleaf

he'd be one expensive 4th liner, that's for sure.

You have an 11 million dollar winger that doesn’t score when it matters, but two million for a depth player is too much ?

Jun. 5, 2021 at 8:24 a.m.

#12

Boomer125

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Quoting: CementHead27

Considering you have a soft little team that gets pushed around you should be jumping for joy to have him

Says the fan of a team that went 0-4 in a series by simply being pushed around

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