Quoting: pharrow
speed???
Foligno, is slow.
Jumbo is slow
Spezza is slow
Simmonds is slow
Build around speed?
No you got 4-5 guys in your forward group that you build around that are fast. That doesn't mean they built the rest of the team around "speed".
If you think that's what happened here then you are clueless.
And Foligno played on the bottom 6 because he's a bottom 6 player. Hell he was even getting bottom 6 minutes in CBJ when they were healthy. He's old and slowed.
He was never the fastest player to begin with.
But it's views like these that lead you to Holl is a legit top 4. Then wondering why you are getting early exits from the playoffs every year. At least have some no homer objective opinions.
I’m not surprised you think all that, after all, you thought that the only right shot in that top 4 was playing the left side.
I literally said Jumbo was old and slow, I’m not stupid. But Spezza is fast, you would have seen that if you watched any of their games. When Foligno got to the Leafs, he was not only playing on the top 6 before he got hurt, he was playing well on the top 6. Again, you would have known that if you were watching the games. Other forwards that you didn’t mention because they are fast (apart from the core 4, of course)
Mikeyhev
Kerfoot
Hyman
Engvall
Brooks
Galchenyuk
Spezza (even though I mentioned him already)
That’s 7 depth forwards outside the core 4 meaning 11 of the 12 forward spots can have speed, and you say this team wasn’t built around that (and I didn’t even mention Robertson)
Finally Holl is a top 4 defenceman, he has better analytic numbers than Parayko and there is a reason that him and Muzzin are considered the “shutdown pair” and he was far and away their best player in game 7.
I base my opinions on results, I am seriously curious where you get yours from