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Created by: ryanma260
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 8, 2021
Published: Jun. 8, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
5$5,950,000
4$5,250,000
Trades
1.
TOR
SEA
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Expansion
2.
TOR
  1. DeSmith, Casey
  2. Guentzel, Jake
  3. Marino, John
  4. Zucker, Jason ($2,750,000 retained)
  5. 2022 1st round pick (PIT)
3.
TOR
  1. Lemieux, Brendan ($775,000 retained)
LAK
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. 2021 5th round pick (TOR)
  3. 2023 4th round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$80,216,783$0$0$1,283,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,950,000$5,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$725,000$725,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
RFA - 3

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Jun. 8, 2021 at 9:23 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 8, 2021 at 9:28 p.m.
Lol. Why would the Pens take on Marner’s 11M contract?? And retain some of Zucker’s salary too?? And trade draft capital away??

Like every team in this flat cap, the Pens are very tight on the Salary cap. We probably can’t sign all of our RFA and UFA without moving a contract too. Why do u think they do this??

To move Marner in this flat cap period, is gonna be tough, almost impossible, unless the Leafs take a major loss.


is this trade supposed to be realistic?? And help both teams?? How does it help the Pens??

Or u just wanted to see what the leafs looked like with Guentzel, Zucker, Marino and DeSmith.??

A video game would decline this trade.
Jun. 8, 2021 at 9:29 p.m.
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Lol I’m a leafs fan but I already can tell ya it would be marner plus someone for guentzel, who is actually a player I’d love to have. Pens don’t want an extra five mil for an extra 15 regular season points
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Jun. 8, 2021 at 9:32 p.m.
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Lol. Why would the Pens take on Marner’s 11M contract?? And retain some of Zucker’s salary too?? And trade draft capital away??

Like every team in this flat cap, the Pens are very tight on the Salary cap. We probably can’t sign all of our RFA and UFA without moving a contract too. Why do u think they do this??

To move Marner in this flat cap period, is gonna be tough, almost impossible, unless the Leafs take a major loss.


is this trade supposed to be realistic?? And help both teams??

Or u just wanted to see what the leafs looked like with Guentzel, Zucker, Marino and DeSmith.??

A video game would decline this trade.


I'm going to be honest, the trade was originally this except you take off the 1st and we give you back Hallander or Abramov LOL. I pitched to this server I'm in for hockey and everyone basically said Toronto was getting fleeced in the deal so I reverted it. To be fair, I think any trade with a player like Marner especially with his cap hit is hard to gage, so I hope you give me a bit of leniency there lol. Zucker's retain was tough but the way I saw it is that he only has 2 more years left, 1 after next season and with Letang coming off the books it wouldn't be too much of a bullet to bite. I also didn't think you guys had that many pending contracts esp since I don't see Malkin playing more than another 1 or 2 years before going to the KHL. I figured between him and Letang, a ton of money would be available within the next 2 seasons.
Jun. 8, 2021 at 9:46 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 8, 2021 at 10:51 p.m.
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I'm going to be honest, the trade was originally this except you take off the 1st and we give you back Hallander or Abramov LOL. I pitched to this server I'm in for hockey and everyone basically said Toronto was getting fleeced in the deal so I reverted it. To be fair, I think any trade with a player like Marner especially with his cap hit is hard to gage, so I hope you give me a bit of leniency there lol. Zucker's retain was tough but the way I saw it is that he only has 2 more years left, 1 after next season and with Letang coming off the books it wouldn't be too much of a bullet to bite. I also didn't think you guys had that many pending contracts esp since I don't see Malkin playing more than another 1 or 2 years before going to the KHL. I figured between him and Letang, a ton of money would be available within the next 2 seasons.


Lol. Pens said they are gonna extend Geno and Letang. Fully entend to keep the core together. In every article. Every quote. Even if not, Marner for Guentzel, Zucker, Marino, DeSmith and a 1st is crazy. You’re delusional my man.

Leafs get 4 players.(for 1). Two, top 6 wings. One top pairing RHD, only 24 years old, plays 20 plus minutes a night. And a goalie, that is a proven, very capable NHL back-up/ 1B goalie, that has a very cheap contract. And they get a 1st round pick..lol.

Basically more players than Edmonton got for Gretzky. The Eric Lindros trade; The most lopsided trade in NHL history. 6 players and a 1st round pick for 1 player. U almost got there..lol.

And they retain on Zuckers contract too. Just to help the leafs out alittle more.

And guess what, the trade fills out the Leafs roster, exactly what they need. What a joke.

Marner never had a 40 goal season. Guentzel has (26 goals; Marner’s career high). Guentzel is better defensively. Is Marner better offensively, yes. But Guentzel is a better goal scorer. And Marner gets paid 5M more per season..lol.

He’s not 5M a season better. Not even close.

Go look at the previous page to this posts page. See what a realistic leafs fan thinks. Marner and Holl for Guentzel. That’s the title of the post. And a realistic offer.

And I doubt the Pens even do that. Marner’s contract is too much. Pens can’t take it on for 5M more than Guentzel. Hes not worth it.
Jun. 8, 2021 at 10:03 p.m.
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Pens laugh and hang up. No way they remotely consider this. Hell I wouldn’t do Guentzel for Marner straight up lol
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