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Case for a Conservative Offseason

Created by: Hockyluv21
Team: 2021-22 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 12, 2021
Published: Jun. 12, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Tampa is going to get utterly reamed by the salary cap. If they repeat this year, there may not be any team out there better than them besides us. With the fact that our core is so young and has room to improve, you may not need to do very much to bring the club to cup contending status.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,300,000
5$3,800,000
2$6,300,000
4$2,580,000
1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,400,000
3$3,400,000
7$8,000,000
2$750,000
2$2,100,000
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Gardiner, Jake ($550,000 retained)
2.
CAR
    Protected: Aho, Teravainen, Svechnikov, Staal, Niederreiter, Trocheck, Foegele, Slavin, Pesce, Bean, Nedeljkovic
    3.
    PIT
    1. Geekie, Morgan [RFA Rights]
    2. 2021 2nd round pick (CAR)
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the LAK
    Logo of the STL
    2022
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the ANA
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CBJ
    2023
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$81,500,000$80,478,758$0$537,500$1,021,242
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $6,300,000$6,300,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $8,460,250$8,460,250
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,400,000$5,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $2,580,000$2,580,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $2,100,000$2,100,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $725,000$725,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,300,000$5,300,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,025,175$4,025,175
    LD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,025,000$4,025,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $1,300,000$1,300,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $3,800,000$3,800,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $750,000$750,000
    LD
    RFA - 1

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    Jun. 12, 2021 at 6:31 p.m.
    #26
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    Quoting: Hockyluv21
    Foegele and Bean are both protected above and Fleury was dealt to Anaheim. None of them would be a choice for Francis...


    Did you outline who you think CAR protects? Did I miss that? OH! Sorry, within the trade. My bad. I did miss it!
    Jun. 12, 2021 at 6:36 p.m.
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    Through UFA? This is a golden opportunity for Seattle. They have more cap space than anyone and can offer serious money in a flat cap environment. Dougie/Hall/etc... you name it. They can outbid anyone. There's no reason for them to take on unneeded cap space without getting something in return.


    Name a big name UFA who will want to sign with an expansion team when there are teams (like Carolina) who can pay as much as Seattle can and still offer the UFA's a chance to compete for the Stanley Cup.

    There's no certainty big UFAs will want to sign in Seattle
    Jun. 12, 2021 at 6:47 p.m.
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    Edited Jun. 12, 2021 at 6:54 p.m.
    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Name a big name UFA who will want to sign with an expansion team when there are teams (like Carolina) who can pay as much as Seattle can and still offer the UFA's a chance to compete for the Stanley Cup.

    There's no certainty big UFAs will want to sign in Seattle


    Oh, Carolina has $81.5M in free cap space right now??? Didn't think so. No Team, not even DET or OTT has more cap space than Seattle. As for the UFAs. Vegas has been dominant. All Francis needs to do is point at their success. As for specifics...I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was Dougie Hamilton. Seattle can legit offer him north of $10M per year. He's already left a team once because they could pay him what he thought he was owed.

    IF Dougie wants to win. He should take a discount to stay with CAR. I do ultimately agree with that.
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    Jun. 12, 2021 at 6:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Name a big name UFA who will want to sign with an expansion team when there are teams (like Carolina) who can pay as much as Seattle can and still offer the UFA's a chance to compete for the Stanley Cup.

    There's no certainty big UFAs will want to sign in Seattle


    They'll get Hall on a 2 year deal at extremely high dollar. They may royally suck, but with their lucky charm, they'll get Shane Wright and Connor Bedard in two straight drafts. Profit! sarcasm
    Jun. 12, 2021 at 6:55 p.m.
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    Oh, Carolina has $81.5M in free cap space right now??? Didn't think so. No Team, not even DET or OTT has more cap space than Seattle. As for the UFAs. Vegas has been dominant. All Francis needs to do is point at their success. As for specifics...I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was Dougie Hamilton. Seattle can legit offer him north of $10M per year. He's already left a team once because they could pay him what he thought he was owed.

    IF Dougie wants to win. He should take a discount to stay with CAR. I do ultimately agree with that.


    Seattle doesn't have 81.5 mil in cap, they signed Luke Henman
    Jun. 12, 2021 at 6:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: Hockyluv21
    They'll get Hall on a 2 year deal at extremely high dollar. They may royally suck, but with their lucky charm, they'll get Shane Wright and Connor Bedard in two straight drafts. Profit! sarcasm


    🤣🤣

    That would be the most Taylor Hall thing ever. But I cannot see him leaving Boston. Even if he signs at below market value to stay there.
    Jun. 12, 2021 at 6:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Seattle doesn't have 81.5 mil in cap, they signed Luke Henman


    To a minor league deal...they have $81.5M in cap.
    Jun. 12, 2021 at 6:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: exo2769
    To a minor league deal...they have $81.5M in cap.


    He's technically on their roster. They have 80.7 mil right now
    Jun. 12, 2021 at 7:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    He's technically on their roster. They have 80.7 mil right now


    You know CapFriendly has this info right?

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    He is a non-roster player
    Jun. 12, 2021 at 7:04 p.m.
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    You know CapFriendly has this info right?

    guejOoj.png

    He is a non-roster player


    They haven't assigned him to being non-roster yet. Capfriendly openly admit to guessing during the offseason
    Jun. 12, 2021 at 7:18 p.m.
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    They haven't assigned him to being non-roster yet. Capfriendly openly admit to guessing during the offseason


    Kinda like you're guessing that he is on the roster as well. If they choose to play him they will have 80.7 mil in cap, but you're acting like his signing locks the team into playing him at the NHL level
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    Jun. 12, 2021 at 7:32 p.m.
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    Kinda like you're guessing that he is on the roster as well. If they choose to play him they will have 80.7 mil in cap, but you're acting like his signing locks the team into playing him at the NHL level


    He was signed to a deal, and they haven't assigned him anywhere. Meaning, he's on the roster. Does he stay on the roster? Probably not. But he is right now.
    Jun. 12, 2021 at 8:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    He was signed to a deal, and they haven't assigned him anywhere. Meaning, he's on the roster. Does he stay on the roster? Probably not. But he is right now.


    His deal starts in the 21-22 season. They can't assign him even if they wanted to
    Jun. 12, 2021 at 10:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: exo2769
    Through UFA? This is a golden opportunity for Seattle. They have more cap space than anyone and can offer serious money in a flat cap environment. Dougie/Hall/etc... you name it. They can outbid anyone. There's no reason for them to take on unneeded cap space without getting something in return.


    Ok but if they sign Dougie Hamilton then that becomes their selection from Carolina and I don’t think Carolina is overly upset. Would they prefer Hamilton over Skjei? Absolutely, but if Seattle doesn’t take Skjei then they likely have trouble signing Hamilton anyway
    Jun. 12, 2021 at 11:56 p.m.
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    Ok but if they sign Dougie Hamilton then that becomes their selection from Carolina and I don’t think Carolina is overly upset. Would they prefer Hamilton over Skjei? Absolutely, but if Seattle doesn’t take Skjei then they likely have trouble signing Hamilton anyway


    Canes have enough space for Hamilton without Seattle taking Skjei. Seattle likely takes Fast (or Foegele depending on if they choose to protect Fast over Foegele, which IMO is unlikely) if they don't take Skjei, and almost every single one of the near-NHL-ready prospects in our farm system are forwards. Svech is coming off a down year and is therefore likely to be bridged to a pact similar to Laine's.
    Jun. 13, 2021 at 1:41 a.m.
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    Quoting: Hockyluv21
    Canes have enough space for Hamilton without Seattle taking Skjei. Seattle likely takes Fast (or Foegele depending on if they choose to protect Fast over Foegele, which IMO is unlikely) if they don't take Skjei, and almost every single one of the near-NHL-ready prospects in our farm system are forwards. Svech is coming off a down year and is therefore likely to be bridged to a pact similar to Laine's.


    I just don’t see it being possible. I mean 8 million is minimum what Hamilton will want and this acgm leaves the canes with only 1 million in space. Skjei is over 1 million more cap hit then MP.
    Jun. 13, 2021 at 2:28 a.m.
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    I just don’t see it being possible. I mean 8 million is minimum what Hamilton will want and this acgm leaves the canes with only 1 million in space. Skjei is over 1 million more cap hit then MP.


    I went extremely generous on a couple of contracts here to illustrate the kind of space that we have. Nedeljkovic isn't likely to get nearly as much I put in there, mainly because I find that they're more likely to pursue either a 1 or 3 year deal. Mrazek's deal is also somewhat of a luxury, and can potentially be replaced by a reclamation project somewhere in UFA. Also, if you have to save more, you can let Martinook go in UFA and use that farm system to full effect, if necessary.
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    Jun. 13, 2021 at 9:26 a.m.
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    Edited Jun. 13, 2021 at 9:46 a.m.
    Quoting: Pensfan89
    Ok but if they sign Dougie Hamilton then that becomes their selection from Carolina and I don’t think Carolina is overly upset. Would they prefer Hamilton over Skjei? Absolutely, but if Seattle doesn’t take Skjei then they likely have trouble signing Hamilton anyway


    I see where you're going with this if SEA doesn't take Hammy then you're suggesting they'd automatically take Skjei. I think Seattle has other Dmen they can grab as UFAs or like you mentioned...Gio, Dumba, Graves, etc... Seattle IMO will avoid Skjei unless they get something with him. There are simply too mant dmen available. Especially with UFAs like Oleksiak Martinez...Hamilton.
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    Jun. 13, 2021 at 3:45 p.m.
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    I see where you're going with this if SEA doesn't take Hammy then you're suggesting they'd automatically take Skjei. I think Seattle has other Dmen they can grab as UFAs or like you mentioned...Gio, Dumba, Graves, etc... Seattle IMO will avoid Skjei unless they get something with him. There are simply too mant dmen available. Especially with UFAs like Oleksiak Martinez...Hamilton.


    The only problem would be getting the UFAs to sign. It will be interesting. I think id rather have Skjei than Gio. There’s just so many factors. Will the wild give Seattle a haul to not select Dumba? Will UFAs sign without wanting a ridiculous price tag? Will Colorado send Seattle compensation to not select Graves? I honestly can’t wait for this expansion draft lol.

    But out of the ones expected right now, I’d say Dumba and Graves are 1 and 2 on the list for sure.
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