I have no idea what a sign and trade is worth, but if this is the return I'll be beyond happy

Bud Dougie is not going to Winnipeg. Also that seems like way too much for his rights.

Where is Pionk?

If Hamilton is willing to sign in Winnipeg for that money, then you just sign him for 7 years as a UFA. Why give up a valuable asset for one extra year, when 7 years is fine. Shorter is probably better at that money.

U don’t need yo sign him for 8 years and give up all that
That contract will bite u when he’s in his late thirties

I knew I was forgetting someone. Thanks for that.

We give that up so that we can protect Appleton. Trading Copp is probably going to happen. So if we can get Dougie's rights to talk to him and show him around Winnipeg that package is way less that we would have had to pay to get him in the regular season.

We are known for that. Look at the Wheeler contract.

If it costs that much to protect Appleton, then you let Seattle take him. The Jets can get more in a trade for Copp than what you're giving him up for here, so they'd be better of trading him separately.

If your premise is that Hamilton is willing to sign here, then he's willing to sign here and you just sign him for 7 years as a UFA and save the assets for other uses.

If your premise is that Hamilton isn't sure, or doesn't want to sign in Winnipeg and you want an extra week or two to try and convince him to sign, then you are overpaying by a massive amount.

At the beginning of the year I was 100% on protecting Copp and letting Appleton go. Throughout the year Appleton has changed my mind. Also Copp is going to want Lowry type money or possibly more. For the price tag on Appleton I will take that instead. Bringing in a guy like Haula and bringing back Matty P helps on the right side in the bottom six. I agree we could probably get more for Copp but if trading Copp to Carolina and that helping us get Dougie wouldnt that be worth it? Would this package have gotten it done in the regular season? My opinion is not. Also my opinion is that Dougie would like the extra year that a team with his rights would be allowed to give him.

It doesn't matter if this deal would or wouldn't have been enough in the regular season, it's irrelevant. Now is what matters.

If Hamilton is willing to sign an extension in Carolina, but still wants to be traded and Winnipeg is where he wants to go, then you give Carolina a 2nd or 3rd for their trouble and that's that. There's no reason too give them anywhere near fair value if he wants to leave Carolina and go to Winnipeg with an 8 year contract.

If there is more than one team involved and Hamilton is okay with going to any interested team and doesn't have a preference, then you need to beat the other team(s) involved and it could cost this much or more. Although this situation is the least likely.

The most likely situation is that Hamilton wants to leave as a UFA and will just do that and decide where he's going on his own with no concerns about who is trading for him.

Your overall premise of paying Carolina a heavy premium when Hamilton wants to come to Winnipeg, just doesn't make sense.