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Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 16, 2021
Published: Jun. 16, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
2$1,050,000
2$950,000
1$750,000
4$6,500,000
3$7,200,000
4$5,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,500,000
2$1,500,000
1$800,000
1$1,250,000
Trades
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2.
VAN
  1. 2022 7th round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Beagle, Jay ($1,500,000 retained)
3.
VAN
    contract terminated
    4.
    VAN
    1. Reinhart, Sam [RFA Rights]
    BUF
    1. Eriksson, Loui
    2. 2021 1st round pick (VAN)
    3. 2021 3rd round pick (VAN)
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    Buried
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2021
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    2022
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    2023
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$76,543,159$648,780$1,982,500$4,956,841

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
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    $7,200,000$7,200,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 3
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    $5,875,000$5,875,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $4,125,000$4,125,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,225,000$1,225,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    $5,750,000$5,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $725,000$725,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $800,000$800,000
    C
    UFA
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $950,000$950,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    G
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $5,950,000$5,950,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $1,050,000$1,050,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2

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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 7:15 p.m.
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    While that would be nice, unfortunately the value on that Reinhart trade doesn't add up. Dumping Eriksson costs a first in and of itself, possibly more in the flat cap era, so you're essentially asking Buffalo to give up a 1st liner for a 3rd.
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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 7:18 p.m.
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    dumping 1 year of his contract when hes only owed a few million of real money would not cost the 9th overall pick. nucks could also retain up to 2m
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 7:18 p.m.
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    Yeah no u need to include at least a 2nd
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 7:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: sporkknife
    While that would be nice, unfortunately the value on that Reinhart trade doesn't add up. Dumping Eriksson costs a first in and of itself, possibly more in the flat cap era, so you're essentially asking Buffalo to give up a 1st liner for a 3rd.


    dumping 1 year of his contract when hes only owed a few million of real money would not cost the 9th overall pick. nucks could also retain up to 2m
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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 7:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: xcleversey8
    dumping 1 year of his contract when hes only owed a few million of real money would not cost the 9th overall pick. nucks could also retain up to 2m


    Exactly more so like Mark Staal last year
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 7:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: xcleversey8
    dumping 1 year of his contract when hes only owed a few million of real money would not cost the 9th overall pick. nucks could also retain up to 2m


    Precedent would say otherwise I'm afraid. I'm not saying Vancouverisawesome is a great source by any means, but they list things that actually happened, and the price is very steep. That was BEFORE people knew the cap wouldn't keep rising:

    https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/expansion-draft-could-canucks-convince-kraken-to-take-eriksson-3846689
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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 7:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: sporkknife
    While that would be nice, unfortunately the value on that Reinhart trade doesn't add up. Dumping Eriksson costs a first in and of itself, possibly more in the flat cap era, so you're essentially asking Buffalo to give up a 1st liner for a 3rd.


    While giving up a low 1st to dump 6.75 million of avv and real money to be bought out is an outlier and something only a Toronto GM would do, as no other will. The value is close o what Detroit got last year for a very similar avv and real money which was they got a 2nd round pick.
    Or we could choose what Ottawa gave up to get a player with a higher avv but lower real money which was also a 2nd round pick.
    OP proposal is fair value for all parties
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 7:37 p.m.
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    Quoting: theleano1
    Exactly more so like Mark Staal last year


    Look, guys, I would love for this to happen. I really would. I'm just trying to temper expectations here a bit.

    Marc Staal played top pairing minutes for Detroit and was actually not that terrible, and Detroit got a 2nd rounder for that. Loui on the other hand, while he was once a great player, is not really capable of playing NHL games anymore. You could see this year when 10 regulars were out, Loui did not play. That is incredibly damning. Hopefully, Loui gets tired of sitting on the bus in Abbotsford, collects his bonus, retires, and heads to Sweden for some Prinsesstårta. We cannot assume that is likely, however. I would brave Abby for a year for $4 million, and I think just about anyone would.
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 7:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: sporkknife
    Look, guys, I would love for this to happen. I really would. I'm just trying to temper expectations here a bit.

    Marc Staal played top pairing minutes for Detroit and was actually not that terrible, and Detroit got a 2nd rounder for that. Loui on the other hand, while he was once a great player, is not really capable of playing NHL games anymore. You could see this year when 10 regulars were out, Loui did not play. That is incredibly damning. Hopefully, Loui gets tired of sitting on the bus in Abbotsford, collects his bonus, retires, and heads to Sweden for some Prinsesstårta. We cannot assume that is likely, however. I would brave Abby for a year for $4 million, and I think just about anyone would.


    This trade would not happen in the real world, because Buffalo would get a better offer maybe not that high a pick but better player(s) for sure and maybe a late pick too. As to Staal he played like garbage the last several years for the Rangers and not that many minutes as he did last year. The reason Staal played as much was Detroit isn't competing, they didnt really have anyone else, plus they used Staal as more a vet presence and a guy that could be learned from by the younger players. As to the OP value is fair but having said that this trade never happens.
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    Jun. 16, 2021 at 7:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: pasha123
    This trade would not happen in the real world, because Buffalo would get a better offer maybe not that high a pick but better player(s) for sure and maybe a late pick too. As to Staal he played like garbage the last several years for the Rangers and not that many minutes as he did last year. The reason Staal played as much was Detroit isn't competing, they didnt really have anyone else, plus they used Staal as more a vet presence and a guy that could be learned from by the younger players. As to the OP value is fair but having said that this trade never happens.


    Well, we can agree to disagree on the value but I agree the trade doesn't happen nonetheless. And yeah, I certainly don't think Staal was good, he was especially awful in NY, but like you said, he at least offered veteran insulation on the blue line. Eriksson offers an expensive cap hit and that's it.

    I've seen the 9OA for Sam straight up and I think that is much more realistic. Depends if Buffalo wants to ice an NHL or an AHL team next year. IDK
    Jun. 16, 2021 at 8:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: sporkknife
    Well, we can agree to disagree on the value but I agree the trade doesn't happen nonetheless. And yeah, I certainly don't think Staal was good, he was especially awful in NY, but like you said, he at least offered veteran insulation on the blue line. Eriksson offers an expensive cap hit and that's it.

    I've seen the 9OA for Sam straight up and I think that is much more realistic. Depends if Buffalo wants to ice an NHL or an AHL team next year. IDK


    Eriksson to Buffalo doesn't make sense unless they aren't trying to compete next year, the owner wants to be like Melnyk and save some money for a year as LE 6mil avv will be 3mil in real money, uses up a player slot they'd otherwise have to fill and he'll help them to another shot at the 1oa pick next year which is what I'd want if I was them.
    I've seen 7oa for Sam but either way I wouldn't do that straight up, and I like Reinhart as a player but he isn't anything better than Miller. Well I shouldn't say I wouldn't, if Clarke, Eklund, Hughes, Guenther, Johnson, Beniers are all gone then I'd consider it as long as they took Roussel too
    Jun. 17, 2021 at 8:33 a.m.
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    Quoting: theleano1
    Exactly more so like Mark Staal last year
    Quoting: sporkknife
    https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/expansion-draft-could-canucks-convince-kraken-to-take-eriksson-3846689
    Quoting: pasha123
    ... 2nd round pick. OP proposal is fair value for all parties
    Sabres fan here.
    Can we agree that the trade as proposed is great for Vancouver, but is terrible for Buffalo?
    While the 9th OA is nice I do not think it is enough for Sam.
    Sam this past year proved that he could produce without Jack, the 9th OA (especially in a weaker draft) could be nothing.
    It would be foolish for Benning to add assets to move Eriksson, (or Holtby as said in the post), just ride it out for one year.
    So take out Loui and then let's talk.
     
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