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Created by: WindsorWings98
Team: 2016-17 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 30, 2017
Published: Jan. 30, 2017
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COL
  1. Sergachev, Mikhail
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2nd round pick
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MTL
  1. Hanzal, Martin
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Sweetner
ARI
  1. Desharnais, David
  2. Flynn, Brian
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3rd round pick
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MTL
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    2017
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    26$73,000,000$69,685,350$0$515,000$3,314,650
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    $4,050,000$4,050,000
    LW
    UFA - 3
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 3
    $1,166,667$1,166,667
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    $1,550,000$1,550,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    $2,800,000$2,800,000
    LW, C, RW
    UFA - 1
    $5,750,000$5,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    $839,166$839,166 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    $912,500$912,500
    C
    UFA - 2
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 5
    $925,000$925,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    $1,200,000$1,200,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    $3,900,000$3,900,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 6
    $725,000$725,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    $706,666$706,666 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
    LW, C
    RFA - 3
    $650,000$650,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    $5,750,000$5,750,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    $7,857,143$7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 10
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    G
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    $950,000$950,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    $2,982,375$2,982,375
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    $800,000$800,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    $750,000$750,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    $612,500$612,500
    RD
    UFA - 2
    $725,000$725,000
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Jan. 30, 2017 at 11:19 a.m.
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    Pretty sure that Chayka was asking for McCarron+2nd rounder for Hanzel.
    Jan. 30, 2017 at 11:20 a.m.
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    I think this was a troll post.
    Jan. 30, 2017 at 11:21 a.m.
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    Vegas isn't claiming 6m Plekenac. 6m gets you a a good UFA. Vegas aren't picking 30 overpaid players just to give cap space to the current NHL teams.
    Jan. 30, 2017 at 11:23 a.m.
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    You would have to give Vegas something of value to convince them to take on Plekanac
    Jan. 30, 2017 at 12:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    Vegas isn't claiming 6m Plekenac. 6m gets you a a good UFA. Vegas aren't picking 30 overpaid players just to give cap space to the current NHL teams.


    Who exactly are you referring to? Radulov? Oshie? Shattenkirk? You actually think any of those guys is signing in LV? Or do you mean they are going to overpay a guy like Patrick Berglund 6M? Is that a better option then getting Plekanec for one more year at 6M and then possibly signing him to a more agreeable contract afterwards or trading him at next years TDL for a pick?

    I know everyone likes to make it out like Plekanec is the worst player in the world but good centre depth will be hard to get from the expansion draft and in free agency, unless you overpay a guy like Hanzal 6m for 6 years?

    Who exactly are their other options? Emelin? Mitchell? Hudon? Habs aren't going to let Beaulieu go for nothing, they'll tarde him before that. Byron will be protected. So their options aren't as great as you think and why would LV throw away a selection of a player on a no name AHL'er that probably will never make the NHL since MTL won't have any good young players available to be picked anyway when they can use 6M for one more year on a guy who is a Czech national captain with leadership for a young team, ~17 min a night, 50%+ face off centerman capable of scoring some points?

    Worst idea ever! They'd rather be choked out by Brock Lesner then accept that! It would completely destroy their organization..........They could put that 6M to good use and sign a bunch of 3-4th line putz to 1-2M contracts.....Or better yet overpay a player not worth 5-6M instead and be stuck with him for 3-4 years.......

    Everybody with me now: Plekanec is NOT the same as David Clarkson, Matt Moulson or Dustin Brown. He's playing top line centre minutes on one of the better teams in the league. This is the first year his stats have taken a decently big decline but there's a reason he still gets 17 mins a night. Is he worth 6M? No he isn't. He is still a good player? Absolutely!!
    Jan. 30, 2017 at 4:02 p.m.
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    FMarco50: We have had this discussion. I admit Vegas might take a few overpaid vets. But there are so many folks on this site that think "their guy" is going to be the player taken by Vegas. Thirty teams aren't going to get there dreams fulfilled.
    This is the first year his stats have taken a decently big decline but there's a reason he still gets 17 mins a night. Is he worth 6M? No he isn't. He is still a good player? Absolutely!! There's your quote. Guess Montreal better
    protect him if he is in their top 7 forwards. But he isn't worth 6m, why should Vegas take him? Cause Montreal (and fill in 29 other teams names) want to save cap space by having an overpaid vet claimed by Vegas.

    Vegas is committed to I believe 43m in the 30 players claimed. What's that an average of 1.4m a year. All 30 players probably won't NHLers as Vegas will have minor leaguers to send to AHL. Yes, Vegas will sign UFAs, as it will be the last change for some NHLers for a big pay day. Other NHL teams that might like to sign UFAs, but do have cap restrictions.

    Regarding your Beaulieu trade. If Montreal can't fit them into their top 3, they have to find a team that thinks he is good enough to fit him into their top 3 (or 4) protecting. And there will be teams....Ducks, Wild, Isles and others that will interested in trading their "4" Dman. So Montreal will have competition in trading Beaulieu with a limited number of suitors available.
    Jan. 30, 2017 at 5:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: F50marco
    Quoting: palhal
    Vegas isn't claiming 6m Plekenac. 6m gets you a a good UFA. Vegas aren't picking 30 overpaid players just to give cap space to the current NHL teams.


    Who exactly are you referring to? Radulov? Oshie? Shattenkirk? You actually think any of those guys is signing in LV? Or do you mean they are going to overpay a guy like Patrick Berglund 6M? Is that a better option then getting Plekanec for one more year at 6M and then possibly signing him to a more agreeable contract afterwards or trading him at next years TDL for a pick?

    I know everyone likes to make it out like Plekanec is the worst player in the world but good centre depth will be hard to get from the expansion draft and in free agency, unless you overpay a guy like Hanzal 6m for 6 years?

    Who exactly are their other options? Emelin? Mitchell? Hudon? Habs aren't going to let Beaulieu go for nothing, they'll tarde him before that. Byron will be protected. So their options aren't as great as you think and why would LV throw away a selection of a player on a no name AHL'er that probably will never make the NHL since MTL won't have any good young players available to be picked anyway when they can use 6M for one more year on a guy who is a Czech national captain with leadership for a young team, ~17 min a night, 50%+ face off centerman capable of scoring some points?

    Worst idea ever! They'd rather be choked out by Brock Lesner then accept that! It would completely destroy their organization..........They could put that 6M to good use and sign a bunch of 3-4th line putz to 1-2M contracts.....Or better yet overpay a player not worth 5-6M instead and be stuck with him for 3-4 years.......

    Everybody with me now: Plekanec is NOT the same as David Clarkson, Matt Moulson or Dustin Brown. He's playing top line centre minutes on one of the better teams in the league. This is the first year his stats have taken a decently big decline but there's a reason he still gets 17 mins a night. Is he worth 6M? No he isn't. He is still a good player? Absolutely!!


    Vanek? Not worth 6 million but I get a feeling he'd be open to signing in Vegas
    Jan. 31, 2017 at 1:06 p.m.
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    FMarco50: We have had this discussion. I admit Vegas might take a few overpaid vets. But there are so many folks on this site that think "their guy" is going to be the player taken by Vegas. Thirty teams aren't going to get there dreams fulfilled.
    This is the first year his stats have taken a decently big decline but there's a reason he still gets 17 mins a night. Is he worth 6M? No he isn't. He is still a good player? Absolutely!! There's your quote. Guess Montreal better
    protect him if he is in their top 7 forwards. But he isn't worth 6m, why should Vegas take him? Cause Montreal (and fill in 29 other teams names) want to save cap space by having an overpaid vet claimed by Vegas.

    Vegas is committed to I believe 43m in the 30 players claimed. What's that an average of 1.4m a year. All 30 players probably won't NHLers as Vegas will have minor leaguers to send to AHL. Yes, Vegas will sign UFAs, as it will be the last change for some NHLers for a big pay day. Other NHL teams that might like to sign UFAs, but do have cap restrictions.

    Regarding your Beaulieu trade. If Montreal can't fit them into their top 3, they have to find a team that thinks he is good enough to fit him into their top 3 (or 4) protecting. And there will be teams....Ducks, Wild, Isles and others that will interested in trading their "4" Dman. So Montreal will have competition in trading Beaulieu with a limited number of suitors available.


    Palhal, of course everyone is going to pick their player. They don't see into the future. They have to go on the idea that their player is chosen. Until LV makes the choice, no one knows.... There is still a 0.00000001% chance they take everyone's garbage. Until that is 0.00% no one is technically wrong to think it.

    Regarding Plekanec, don't compare apples and oranges. MTL can afford to lose Plekanec. LV can afford to gain Plekanec. Two teams trending in different directions. We are paying up to the cap and could use the cap space. What does LV have to worry about? Like I said, are they seriously adding the big name free agents? Not a chance. They can sign Vanek to 6M if they want but is that better? Vanek 6X4, when its been documented he's a flake whose been bought out before? They aren't taking on 73M in cap from the expansion so whats the problem? They lose nothing by taking a good player that they can afford to pay and it doesn't hamstring them going forward at all. Plekanec is signed for one only more year!

    Palhal you just made my point. "Yes, Vegas will sign UFAs, as it will be the last chance for some NHLers for a big pay day" So let's just say they want Radulov, they're going to give him 8M+ for 8 years? Ok he's all yours!! If they want to overpay, they can but in the end is that better? They'll have to really overpay to outbid other teams that want these players too. Either they overpay to the point that the contract is not worth it anymore or they don't get the player...... Any of those big name players worthy of giving big contracts to will get similar offers they'd want and a chance to play for better teams to play for a cup also. Then you have, what are the odds they get 2/3/4 of these players on top of that? If they get lucky, they get 1 big name player. They'll still have plenty of cap. So why not use that cap space on a still good player.

    Once again if they want to overpay lesser players, by all means that's fine but saying they won't take Plekanec because he makes 6M for one more year but they'll definitely take a guy like Berglund for 4X5 or a Vanek for 6M for 4 years doesn't make any sense.

    Trading Beaulieu? No I said he will be protected if he's still on the team. If they know they won't keep him, they'll trade him for whatever they can get. Even if they get barely nothing, that's better then nothing. Once again, that's if they want to leave him exposed which i don't think they would. They'll protect Beaulieu, Weber and Petry. Markov is a UFA that will sign back with the team on July 1st. Emelin is expendable. The others aren't worthy picks.
     
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