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top pair defender + for a 3C and a 3rd line winger for a terrible 4th liner?
yeah, i think the leafs pass

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:16 p.m.

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Quoting: Icekat20

You got it backwards. CBJ would not say yes to an expiring D man, a cap dump and picks. LOLOLOLOLOL, that Canadian education system is grand.

yeah, good one, a full season of Rielly is significantly more valuable than a forward who has had one season in his entire career above 38 points, but nice try! Weird random insult for no reason too. Wild how fragile some people are about their bottom 6 players

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:23 p.m.

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

It's not always about the points. It's about the intrinsic value players bring to teams that make a team complete. The leafs have talent but are a far cry away from being a complete team. This team was designed in a way that adds a third line of veteran NHL players that work their ass off, are difficult to play against and bring a role to the team. The Leafs have never had a third line, that has been trust worthy or effective playing against other teams. Unfortunately in sport you have to give up to get and for anyone to take Kerfoot's contract its going to have to come with an attractive piece and as well going to reduce the value in which you receive.

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:25 p.m.

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Unfortunately the NHL is a hard cap league and the Leafs have created their own mess in the way they've constructed their roster. If they are going to keep the big 4 together; like they say they are, they are continuously going to have to take less value in trades as they'll always need to shed different players salaries as time moves on or require a team to retain salary.

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:31 p.m.

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OTT declines.

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Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:32 p.m.

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Yeah, jenner still isnt remotely worth rielly and the value isnt particularly close no matter how many clichés and media and fan driven falsehoods you spout.
Oh, and the leafs wouldnt need to add squat to move kerfoot of they wanted to because hes actually pretty good

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.

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OTT declines.

Your profile is Eugene Melnik. A few more years of him and your team is not playing in Ottawa.

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.

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OTT declines.

I mean, Dorian is a pretty bad gm but even he's smart enough to trade a bad player for a significantly better one

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.

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Your profile is Eugene Melnik. A few more years of him and your team is not playing in Ottawa.

Sorry Kanata...or whatever farmers field your arena is located in.

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:34 p.m.

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Your profile is Eugene Melnik. A few more years of him and your team is not playing in Ottawa.

Its okay, youre new here. You'll get better at this whole 'ACGM' thing

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Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:36 p.m.

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

I mean, Dorian is a pretty bad gm but even he's smart enough to trade a bad player for a significantly better one

Why do you think Mikheyev is good???? Sure, the guy skates 400mph but doesn't accomplish anything. He doesn't score, doesn't create much, doesn't hit, doesn't really get involved. Such a replaceable player. You can find a guy that makes league minimum that does that.

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:36 p.m.

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If you don’t think they take that trade go back to the streets and suck di** for Wayfair

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Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:38 p.m.

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Its okay, youre new here. You'll get better at this whole 'ACGM' thing

No one can be be good nor bad lol. No ones 'ACGM' team ever hits the ice to find out.

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:39 p.m.

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Quoting: jross13

Mikheyev is fine. He's decent defensively and he drives play pretty good. He's just not as good a scorer as people thought he was.
And it's not about him being particularly good, it's about watson just being awful. Watson is a below replacement level player who is a bad option for any team that isnt actively tanking

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:40 p.m.

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

I mean, Dorian is a pretty bad gm but even he's smart enough to trade a bad player for a significantly better one

Watson scored at a higher points/60 that Mikheyev this year, on a worse team.

Watson is cost controlled

Ilya Mikheyev doesnt play top 6 on OTT and OTT has a glut of bottom 6 depth

Combine that with the fact that you want OTT to retain 1.5M over the remaining 2 years of his contract

No. This is a bad trade. ****ing leaf fans on this site are delusional.

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Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:43 p.m.

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See this is the problem. You guys watch 82 games of the Leafs and it stops there. I'm not a Leafs fan, I watch probably 700 games a year and if the Leafs acquired Boone Jenner he would be the best bottom 6 forward they currently have out of that collection of garbage they roll out there in the bottom 6 every night. Also, I don't know where Leaf fans get this idea that Rielly is this elite defenceman. He's a really good defenceman, but he's no where close to a one. Does some good things out there, but also does some bad things.

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:50 p.m.

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

Exactly, you hit the nail on the head. Mikeyhev is a "fine" player. If you're striving for fine you're never going to be successful. Driving play is irrelevant if you're not going to finish the play. 1.6+ million for a "fine" player who drives play but doesn't finish is too much.

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:52 p.m.

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And if you're going to trade him you need a cheaper player, asking a team to retain salary isn't going to give you a ton. However, the cap space has to be quantified as part of the return.

Jun. 23, 2021 at 4:56 p.m.

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Quoting: PLDGEY

Watson scored at a higher points/60 that Mikheyev this year, on a worse team.

Watson is cost controlled

Ilya Mikheyev doesnt play top 6 on OTT and OTT has a glut of bottom 6 depth

Ottawa has some nice pieces but a "glut" of depth is a bit of a stretch lol. If you think they have any chance of being better than Tampa, Boston, Florida, Montreal, Toronto your'e delusional. You'll finish ahead of Buffalo and Detroit this year which is great I guess, but it's going to be a long season for the Sens again. Their far from competitive. On some nights it will look good, on others disastrous. It's what they are.

Combine that with the fact that you want OTT to retain 1.5M over the remaining 2 years of his contract

No. This is a bad trade. ****ing leaf fans on this site are delusional.

Jun. 23, 2021 at 5:07 p.m.

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Buddy youve gotta figure out how to quote-reply

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Jun. 23, 2021 at 5:29 p.m.

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And you're even further if you trade him for a significantly worse guy

Jun. 23, 2021 at 5:29 p.m.

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Buddy youve gotta figure out how to quote-reply

As soon as the “buddy” response comes out I know I’ve out smarted you. Enjoy your mediocre franchise.

Jun. 23, 2021 at 5:30 p.m.

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Yep, terrible trade for Toronto, ottawa can keep their abuser

Jun. 23, 2021 at 5:31 p.m.

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