He is not #5 or #87.

Never will be.

Nor do you...

You have no idea about his condition currently. You haven't looked at his MRI or the condition of his disc. Friedman said on his podcast that even if he gets the disc replacement it's 2-3 months recovery time. A concern? Sure. Extremely serious? Huge exaggeration.

Pretty much all teams would do the swap except the obvious few.

Great has nothing to do with what I said. Not the only ones to have won cups with salary cap % = 10M+ too. Way more if you want to count just a playoff series.

So Friedman's a doctor now? The disk replacement is an experental surgery and the artificial disk can easily dislodge in a sport like hockey. This isn't about the recovery time. It is about how it will effect him long term. A study of the NFL said around 67% of players in the last 50 years who got the fusion surgery went on to finishing their careers. That is a really low number to bet on when it comes to trading for said player while they are still injured

Toronto does neither, Carolina says no, Vancouver says no, Boston, Rangers, Tampa, Florida all laugh, Islanders too. Pittsburgh's GM kneels over and dies of laughter, Vegas laugh stupidly hard.

Eichel does not hold the value he used to.

I mean it's been 6 seasons since Toews and Kane got paid. Six seasons with theoretically are amongst the best in the league to not win a series.

You can change it to % if you want, but Price is the only one to WIn a series with a double digit Cap number.

Toronto doesn't for Matthews. But does for Tavares & Marner. I've already talked about the rest.

I think you're the guy that severely underrates Eichel.

Friedman is obviously in communication with teams and agents. He said 2-3 months recovery time for the disc replacement. Obviously there is a chance of something bad happening with a surgery. Doesn't mean it's even remotely common though.

In the last 50 years lol? That's a huge range. Success rates have improved greatly since the 70s/80s/90s.

And not all herniated discs are the same in severity. Me or you have no clue how Jack's is. That's obviously going to play a huge part when it comes to surgery.

Moving Tavares or Marner for Eichel makes no sense. Eichel is injury prone, wants back surgery and is coming off his worst ever season. His value isn't what it used to be, you've valuing him like it's 2017.

Again this is not about the recovery time. Not sure how you can say anything is common or uncommon with a surgery never performed before on an athlete outside the UFC. I'm also not talking about mistakes during the surgery either. Hockey is a very physical sport and an artificial disk can easly break or dislocate from an awkward hit.

As for the NFL study, small error in what I said above it was 50 players, not 50 years (it was over a 34 year period though).

You said the disc can dislodge. I said doesn't mean that's a common thing that happens. I have no clue whether it is. You're kind of talking like it is. How do you know it can easily break when playing hockey?

A 34 year period is still a huge range. Anything from the last 5 years?

Try doing even some remote homework on a cervical disk replacement surgery or cervical fusion surgery. Those are Eichels only 2 options right now for getting back on the ice. This is not a torn ACL or broken foot, this is a very serious and uncommon injury that is going to require surgery.
Nobody in the NHL has ever gotten the disk replacement, and only 2 players in recent history have gotten the fusion. 1 of those players is still playing (Letang, but it did effect him for a while) the other was forced into retirement shortly after (Dorsett).

Here watch this

Thanks for the video, but the doc didn't talk about disc replacement at all unless I missed it.

Pretty much that he doesn't know what happened or what the injury looks like. That if it's symptomatic no contact sports and if it isn't he can play. I mean that's how it is for most injuries.

Yes, from my post from earlier that I had edited while you were responding to me. Read the 2nd paragraph

I know about both Letang & Dorsett. Dorsett's disc issues were pretty serious though. I remember them saying if he played he could be paralyzed. I haven't heard anything like that for Jack.

Ofcourse you change it to %. Using total numbers is pointless. What matters is how it impacts the cap and the ability of the team to spend. 7M in 2008 still impacts the cap the same way 10M does in 2021.

Buffalo is looking at picks, prospects, and NHL player(s) not at the superstar level as a return.