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Toronto says yes!! Flyers would get a lot better package and players back for those 2

Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.

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that konecny trade feels off, value wise. two mid tier prospects and one good defenseman for konecny is a steal for toronto.

Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:15 a.m.

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You actually want Justin Holl to be on your top pair? The guy who literally can't play without Muzzin? You're going to put him on your top pair?

Ooooof. Good luck.

Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:18 a.m.

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Quoting: shaf_daddy

You actually want Justin Holl to be on your top pair? The guy who literally can't play without Muzzin? You're going to put him on your top pair?

Ooooof. Good luck.

Plays just fine without Muzzin. Carried Muzzin quite a bit this season when they were together.

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Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:22 a.m.

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Quoting: shaf_daddy

You actually want Justin Holl to be on your top pair? The guy who literally can't play without Muzzin? You're going to put him on your top pair?

Ooooof. Good luck.

he doesn't rely on Muzzin

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Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:23 a.m.

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Quoting: bagelbob

that konecny trade feels off, value wise. two mid tier prospects and one good defenseman for konecny is a steal for toronto.

He would get a better package from the leafs. One that does not involve Lilly or Nolan.

Would start with 2022 1st and one of Robertson or amirov. Maybe something else small.

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Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:23 a.m.

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Toronto says yes!! Flyers would get a lot better package and players back for those 2

Patrick has little value. Konecny is a bit overrated

Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:24 a.m.

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he doesn't rely on Muzzin

The sad part is that even leafs fans think the same thing. Muzzin started the season horribly, when he got it together he was injured came back and looked rough with the full cage. Holl looked good all season.

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Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:26 a.m.

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and Holl was especially good at the beginning if I remember correctly

Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:27 a.m.

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and Holl was especially good at the beginning if I remember correctly

He came out on fire. Muzzin looked like trash.

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Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:28 a.m.

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he doesn't rely on Muzzin

lol

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Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:34 a.m.

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He came out on fire. Muzzin looked like trash.

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lol

one of you two isn't a leafs fan...

Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:39 a.m.

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We need to have a conversation about Justin Holl pic.twitter.com/Y36ygnlP6I
— Lifelong Tampa Bay Lightning fan (@jihad_raya_) July 14, 2021

Go nuts y'all lol

Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:40 a.m.

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Quoting: shaf_daddy

We need to have a conversation about Justin Holl pic.twitter.com/Y36ygnlP6I
— Lifelong Tampa Bay Lightning fan (@jihad_raya_) July 14, 2021

Go nuts y'all lol

what am I supposed to gather from this exactly?

Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:42 a.m.

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Edited Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:49 a.m.

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Patrick has little value. Konecny is a bit overrated

Liljegren and Abramov have even less value than Patrick.
Konecny a bit overrated? Holl isn't? then why would the Leafs want Konecny

Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:44 a.m.

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Quoting: Ryancnbb

what am I supposed to gather from this exactly?

Not surprised you're not smart enough to understand. It makes sense now hahahaha

Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:48 a.m.

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Quoting: GenXHockey

He came out on fire. Muzzin looked like trash.

Oh you mean Muzzin didn't start out like gangbusters after coming back from an injury during last year's playoffs?
They both need each other, Holl looks worse without Muzzin

Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:53 a.m.

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Not surprised you're not smart enough to understand. It makes sense now hahahaha

What’s the issue? Holl makes less than half of Zaitsev. Which is why he was traded. His horrible contract. People who can’t evaluate a players on ice performance rely solely on these stats. Holl was excellent this year. Mcdavid agrees.

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Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:53 a.m.

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Quoting: pasha123

Liljegren and Abramov have even less value than Patrick.
Konecny a bit overrated? Holl isn't? then why would the Leafs want Konecny

konecny was scratched this year and had a down year.
liljegren and Abramov dont have less value than Patrick. Patrick has health problems and isn't so good anyways
leafs would want Konecny because he could shine in our top 6

Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:54 a.m.

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Quoting: pasha123

Oh you mean Muzzin didn't start out like gangbusters after coming back from an injury during last year's playoffs?
They both need each other, Holl looks worse without Muzzin

No he didn’t. Thought I made that clear.

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Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:55 a.m.

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Quoting: GenXHockey

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Not surprised you're not smart enough to understand. It makes sense now hahahaha

exactly. 2 mil is good value for holl and he definitely passes the eye test

Jul. 17, 2021 at 12:59 a.m.

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Quoting: pasha123

Liljegren and Abramov have even less value than Patrick.
Konecny a bit overrated? Holl isn't? then why would the Leafs want Konecny

Patrick has no real value. The other two pieces do. That’s why flyers will hold on to him. I wouldn’t say konecny is overrated though. He’s a solid top 6 winger.

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Jul. 17, 2021 at 1:02 a.m.

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Why would you want Patrick if he has health issues. He will get a 2nd round pick from a team but Liljegren and Abramov won't get a 3rd combined so yes they have less value. Holl isn't a top pairing guy and Konecny already shines in Philly, Vigneault is known to bench younger players once in a while. I like Konecny i think he would excel in Toronto. But if Philly where to move him they'd get a lot better package than that.

Jul. 17, 2021 at 1:04 a.m.

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No he didn’t. Thought I made that clear.

LOL you sure did

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Jul. 17, 2021 at 1:05 a.m.

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