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If I could reverse time This would have been my perfect draft day

Created by: Stan_Bowman
Initial Creation Date: Jul 23, 2021
Published: Jul 24 at 8:47
Team: 2021-22 Chicago Blackhawks
Team Explanation
I had actually trusted Bowman wouldn’t screw this team up with his past 2-3 trades. However, I’m not a fan of them Jones trade, especially his extension, and I feel as if he wasted a ton of assets today. I remember when MTL was making their run everyone was saying that a bunch of Stupid GM’s would make moves to copy MTL… well I think last night says enough about where Bowman fits into those camps.

Was this revisionist history too much to ask for? I mean really…
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Buchnevich, Pavel8$5,500,000
Trades
CHI
    12th overall

    Wings grab Cossa.
    DET
      23rd overall
      48 overall
      102 overall.
      CHI
        Picks 20
        Draft the other goalie here.
        EDM
          Picks 23, 102, 108
          CHI
            Instead of trading for Jones we got Buch from NYR for a 2nd and a prospect.
            NYR
              2nd round pick NYR
              (You’re choice of prospect here, Hardman, Entwistle, etc.)
              CHI
              1. Buchnevich, Pavel [RFA Rights]
              Additional Details:
              House keeping.
              STL
                Retained Salary Transactions
                • Olli Määttä: $750,108 (18%)
                DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
                2022
                CHI
                CHI
                CHI
                EDM
                VGK
                CHI
                CHI
                CHI
                2023
                CHI
                CHI
                CHI
                CHI
                CHI
                CHI
                CHI
                2024
                CHI
                CHI
                CHI
                CHI
                CHI
                CHI
                CHI
                ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
                21$81,500,000$74,713,381$452,439$5,115,000$6,786,619
                Left WingCenterRight Wing
                CHI
                Kubalik, Dominik
                $3,700,000
                LW
                RFA - 1
                CHI
                Toews, Jonathan
                $10,500,000
                C
                NMC
                UFA - 2
                Buchnevich, Pavel
                $5,500,000
                RW, LW
                UFA - 4
                CHI
                DeBrincat, Alex
                $6,400,000
                LW, RW
                RFA - 2
                CHI
                Dach, Kirby
                $925,000
                C, RW
                RFA - 1
                CHI
                Kane, Patrick
                $10,500,000
                RW
                NMC
                UFA - 2
                CHI
                Borgström, Henrik
                $1,000,000
                C
                RFA - 2
                Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
                CHI
                Jones, Caleb
                $850,000
                LD
                RFA - 1
                CHI
                Murphy, Connor
                $3,850,000
                RD
                UFA - 1
                CHI
                Lankinen, Kevin
                $800,000
                G
                UFA - 1
                CHI
                De Haan, Calvin
                $4,550,000
                LD/RD
                UFA - 1
                CHI
                Boqvist, Adam
                $894,167
                RD
                RFA - 1
                CHI
                Stillman, Riley
                $1,350,000
                LD
                RFA - 3
                CHI
                Mitchell, Ian
                $925,000
                RD
                RFA - 2
                ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
                CHI
                Kalynuk, Wyatt
                $925,000
                LD
                RFA - 1
                CHI
                Seabrook, Brent
                $6,875,000
                RD
                NMC
                UFA - 3
                CHI
                Kurashev, Philipp
                $842,500
                LW, RW
                RFA - 1
                CHI
                Shaw, Andrew
                $3,900,000
                C, RW
                UFA - 1
                CHI
                Strome, Dylan
                $3,000,000
                C, LW
                RFA - 1
                CHI
                Connolly, Brett
                $3,500,000
                RW, LW
                UFA - 2
                CHI
                Carpenter, Ryan
                $1,000,000
                RW, C
                UFA - 1
                CHI
                Hardman, Mike
                $912,500
                LW, RW
                RFA - 1
                CHI
                Entwistle, Mackenzie
                $811,667
                C
                RFA - 1

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                Jul 24 at 8:49
                #1
                exo2769
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                Buchnevich would have been nice for sure. I'm not a fan of drafting a goalie in the 1st.
                Jul 24 at 8:49
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                Nylander SZN
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                Also @exo2769 this is not the post I was talking about.
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                Jul 24 at 8:50
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                Nylander SZN
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                Quoting: exo2769
                Buchnevich would have been nice for sure. I'm not a fan of drafting a goalie in the 1st.

                At 20th overall? Plus the bounty of picks we would have had moving into day 2? This would have been MUCH better than throwing a pick away in Nolan Allan
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                Jul 24 at 8:52
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                did Not C that comin
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                Relax buddy, we all make misstakes.
                Jul 24 at 8:56
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                Nylander SZN
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                Quoting: Yzerphyuk
                Relax buddy, we all make misstakes.


                As you have so graciously demonstrated.
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                Jul 24 at 8:56
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                exo2769
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                Quoting: Stan_Bowman
                At 20th overall? Plus the bounty of picks we would have had moving into day 2? This would have been MUCH better than throwing a pick away in Nolan Allan


                I wouldn't draft any goalie in the 1st. Lots of reasons why too. I'd have to create a whole post as to why. The short is, A.) Stastically They flop more often B.) You can get just as good a starter in the 2nd or 3rd. C.) The contract demands are too high once they do succeed. As proof. We had 7+ rookie goalies last year play well. That's not a little. Guys like Lankinen were never even drafted. Sorokin 3rd, Igor 4th, kaapo 4th, Ned 2nd. I'd collect 4th and 5th rounders and draft 3 goalies in a year. All Russian. All their rights stay. Collect rights like it were those odd state quarters back in the day. Get 50 of them
                Jul 24 at 8:58
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                Nylander SZN
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                Quoting: exo2769
                I wouldn't draft any goalie in the 1st. Lots of reasons why too. I'd have to create a whole post as to why. The short is, A.) Stastically They flop more often B.) You can get just as good a starter in the 2nd or 3rd. C.) The contract demands are too high once they do succeed. As proof. We had 7+ rookie goalies last year play well. That's not a little. Guys like Lankinen were never even drafted. Sorokin 3rd, Igor 4th, kaapo 4th, Ned 2nd.


                That’s a fine argument but when guys are being compared to Price and Vasy I have to consider it.
                Jul 24 at 9:01
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                exo2769
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                Quoting: Stan_Bowman
                That’s a fine argument but when guys are being compared to Price and Vasy I have to consider it.


                Ok let's stay with those two examples. Price...never won a cup. $10.5M. Vasi. They were $18M over the cap. Besides Vasi...the goalie with the highest % cap hit vs the team (assuming cap era) to win a cup is Crow in 2015.
                Jul 24 at 9:02
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                Nylander SZN
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                Quoting: exo2769
                Ok let's stay with those two examples. Price...never won a cup. $10.5M. Vasi. They were $18M over the cap. Besides Vasi...the goalie with the highest % cap hit vs the team (assuming cap era) to win a cup is Crow in 2015.


                Good goalies are good, I’m fine with drafting them.
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                Jul 24 at 9:11
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                Quoting: exo2769
                Ok let's stay with those two examples. Price...never won a cup. $10.5M. Vasi. They were $18M over the cap. Besides Vasi...the goalie with the highest % cap hit vs the team (assuming cap era) to win a cup is Crow in 2015.


                The 18M over isn’t a good argument. Leafs were like 15M over the year before and they played 7 games. BOS added 8M on Hall. The concept that when you now make a TDL add or have an injury return after playoffs doesn’t discount the elite status of a G. Stick to barking up the Price @ 10.5M with little success tree.
                Jul 24 at 9:14
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                exo2769
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                Quoting: NYR1983
                The 18M over isn’t a good argument. Leafs were like 15M over the year before and they played 7 games. BOS added 8M on Hall. The concept that when you now make a TDL add or have an injury return after playoffs doesn’t discount the elite status of a G. Stick to barking up the Price 10.5M with little success tree.


                Except TBL had Kuch out the while regular season. They were WELL over the cap Day 1.
                Jul 24 at 9:20
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                Quoting: exo2769
                Except TBL had Kuch out the while regular season. They were WELL over the cap Day 1.


                The team won the cup the year before without Stamkos.. they are simply the best team in the league. That’s like discounting CHI cup when they were 6M over cap yet they won how many in a 6 year span? TB had TJ as the replacement for Kuch, not exactly a solid filler. If they had of added Bread for the season and then bring Kuch back I could support your theory. But they had negative value players as the stop gap while Kuch was out. Vasi not getting the Vez was the NO1 BS.. don’t be a crybaby about their 2 “illegitimate” cups.. they are as real as everyone else’s
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                Jul 24 at 9:24
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                exo2769
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                Quoting: NYR1983
                The team won the cup the year before without Stamkos.. they are simply the best team in the league. That’s like discounting CHI cup when they were 6M over cap yet they won how many in a 6 year span? TB had TJ as the replacement for Kuch, not exactly a solid filler. If they had of added Bread for the season and then bring Kuch back I could support your theory. But they had negative value players as the stop gap while Kuch was out. Vasi not getting the Vez was the NO1 BS.. don’t be a crybaby about their 2 “illegitimate” cups.. they are as real as everyone else’s


                You're right. Kane was hurt one season too. Broken collar bone. Came back day 1 of the playoffs. I'm not saying I hate the lightning or Vasi. Just I wouldn't give that contract to a goalie. Way too many ELC goalies win the cup.
                Jul 24 at 9:31
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                Quoting: exo2769
                You're right. Kane was hurt one season too. Broken collar bone. Came back day 1 of the playoffs. I'm not saying I hate the lightning or Vasi. Just I wouldn't give that contract to a goalie. Way too many ELC goalies win the cup.


                Ya, I don’t disagree on some level. I was just saying that Price(although an elite G), I’d rather draft a later G more often than not. But you also have to realize that the last 4 G standing in the playoffs were all 1st round picks. Not all teams 18M over cap. So ya, I have a hard time paying a G 10M+ and if I do they better be the McJesus of goaltending. I’m taking Shesty, Lundqvist over Price all day when it comes to draft position. If I remember correctly, I think Dan Blackburn was a 1st round G for us and that didn’t go well. <—I’d have to look it up to confirm but I think this was the case
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                Jul 24 at 9:33
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                exo2769
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                Quoting: NYR1983
                Ya, I don’t disagree on some level. I was just saying that Price(although an elite G), I’d rather draft a later G more often than not. But you also have to realize that the last 4 G standing in the playoffs were all 1st round picks. Not all teams 18M over cap. So ya, I have a hard time paying a G 10M+ and if I do they better be the McJesus of goaltending. I’m taking Shesty, Lundqvist over Price all day when it comes to draft position. If I remember correctly, I think Dan Blackburn was a 1st round G for us and that didn’t go well. <—I’d have to look it up to confirm but I think this was the case


                The list of 1st round goalie busts is very long.
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                Jul 24 at 9:35
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                Quoting: exo2769
                The list of 1st round goalie busts is very long.


                I bet!! Sometimes guys like Fleury are guaranteed though and you can’t pass on it.
                 
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